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gcarth Plus
15 3.1k 1 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2019 1:14PM

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Quote:Is it April 1st?
Every day is April 1st in this mad world. Black is white and white is black if that is what we are told to believe by Big Brother. SmileSad



George Orwell wrote: "The Party told them to reject the evidence of their eyes and ears. It was their final and most essential command"

Aren't those words more applicable now that they were 70 years ago when Orwell wrote them?

A few more are at: https://www.age-of-the-sage.org/quotations/quotes/george_orwell_1984.html

Great contribution. Thanks, thewlliam2. I've never seen that site of quotes before. I've put into my favourites list!

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Fma7 4 951 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2019 7:22PM

Quote:Every day is April 1st in this mad world. Black is white and white is black if that is what we are told to believe by Big Brother


Or David Icke
gcarth Plus
15 3.1k 1 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2019 8:20PM

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Quote:Every day is April 1st in this mad world. Black is white and white is black if that is what we are told to believe by Big Brother


Or David Icke

Well, though most of us - me included - think David Icke is a strange guy but I've said this quite a few times before: There is an element of truth in his weird statements. For instance, his notion that the world is controlled by shape shifting lizards may be risible: However, if we take his statements as being metaphorical, then I think the analogy is pretty accurate.
The trouble is, he actually appears to believe in the literal presence of these lizards.
For me, the analogy of cold-blooded, secretive, slithering creatures that change their appearance in accordance with their needs is quite appropriate for the psychopaths and sociopaths that seem to run the world's affairs.
Fma7 4 951 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2019 11:01PM

Quote:
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Quote:Every day is April 1st in this mad world. Black is white and white is black if that is what we are told to believe by Big Brother


Or David Icke
Well, though most of us - me included - think David Icke is a strange guy but I've said this quite a few times before: There is an element of truth in his weird statements. For instance, his notion that the world is controlled by shape shifting lizards may be risible: However, if we take his statements as being metaphorical, then I think the analogy is pretty accurate.
The trouble is, he actually appears to believe in the literal presence of these lizards.
For me, the analogy of cold-blooded, secretive, slithering creatures that change their appearance in accordance with their needs is quite appropriate for the psychopaths and sociopaths that seem to run the world's affairs.



Well he's certainly with you on the New World Order, Babyloniian Brotherhood and the rest of it.

Skripal denier too.

You keep impressive company.

Wouldn't be so bad if the world wasn't flat I reckon.
gcarth Plus
15 3.1k 1 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 9:45AM

Quote:Well he's certainly with you on the New World Order, Babyloniian Brotherhood and the rest of it.
I didn't say I was a David Icke follower. I said that I thought there were elements of truth in what he says. Who are the Babylonian Brotherhood? I've never heard of them.


Quote:Skripal denier too.
What is a Skripal denier? I don't question their existence - unless they've been 'disappeared'.
If you mean that I deny Russian culpability, well then I didn't deny that either. I only asserted that the facts don't add up.


Quote:You keep impressive company.
I've never met David Icke.


Quote:Wouldn't be so bad if the world wasn't flat I reckon.
Well, if anyone believes that we are being told the truth about the Skripals, they are capable of believing the world is flat.
Jestertheclown 10 8.0k 252 England
10 Aug 2019 9:48AM

Quote:they are capable of believing the world is flat.


You mean it's not . . . . ? !
gcarth Plus
15 3.1k 1 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 10:00AM

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Quote:they are capable of believing the world is flat.


You mean it's not . . . . ? !

LOL. Well it must be flat because we would fall of the edge otherwise - or maybe that explains the Bermuda Triangle - but no, that can't be right - it must be shaped like a saucer to prevent the oceans flooding over the edge. Wink
gcarth Plus
15 3.1k 1 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 2:31PM

Quote:would fall of the edge
Oops! Sorry. That should be fall OFF the edge, of course.
We laugh about 'flat earthers' but they do seem to exist, don't they? Apparently there are flat earth societies. I think they are even more weird than David Icke's Illuminati ideas.
Further proof that the world is crazy, of course, is that many people believe in Creationism and are in denial of Darwinism.
Chris_L 5 5.1k United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 3:00PM

Quote:You keep impressive company.
What's the name of the lazy argument trick that Fma is trying to use against you above by finding something that both you and Icke believe in order to try and insinuate that your argument can be dismissed without him bothering to engage you in an actual argument.

I know it's close to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic and possibly ad hominem but can't think of the actual name for this kind of fallacious non-argument.

gcarth Plus
15 3.1k 1 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 4:15PM

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Quote:You keep impressive company.
What's the name of the lazy argument trick that Fma is trying to use against you above by finding something that both you and Icke believe in order to try and insinuate that your argument can be dismissed without him bothering to engage you in an actual argument.

I know it's close to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic and possibly ad hominem but can't think of the actual name for this kind of fallacious non-argument.


I'm not much of an expert on these things: Is it what is known as a 'strawman's' argument?
Chris_L 5 5.1k United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 6:23PM
No I don't think so, but he does that as well in another comment, seems that strawmanning is "giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent". I think he will also have a go at a person's spelling or grammar when he is unable to counter their argument with one of his own.
Fma7 4 951 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 7:34PM

Quote: I think he will also have a go at a person's spelling or grammar when he is unable to counter their argument with one of his own.


I think you'll find someone else started that, and I just turned it on him.


Quote:What's the name of the lazy argument trick that Fma is trying to use against you above by finding something that both you and Icke believe in order to try and insinuate that your argument can be dismissed without him bothering to engage you in an actual argument.

I know it's close to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic and possibly ad hominem but can't think of the actual name for this kind of fallacious non-argument.



What else can I do against such intellectual heavyweights?

I couldn't drop half the names you can.
Chris_L 5 5.1k United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 10:14PM
Sure you could Frank.

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