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SU 800 Or SB800


Grim1 13 49 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:02AM
I have a D200 and two SB800's. For outdoor location lighting, I am finding the commander mode, though excellent, limiting in terms of range and flexibility of compensation range.
Does anyone have any comments on the benefits of the SU800 controller or a further SB800 as a not-necessarily-firing master?
stevekhart 14 4.5k 3 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:09AM
IR based triggers are always going to be limited outdoors, you really need a radio based trigger like a pocket wizard. The SU-800 also provides a corded solution for use with SB-R200s.
stolzy 14 3.8k 7
5 Mar 2008 11:12AM
But the radio trigger wouldn't give the facilities of the Nikon CFS,, it would just trigger the flash
Grim1 13 49 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:13AM
Thanks, Steve - my understanding (limited...) is that pocket wizards don't allow for TTL firing, or is that not right?
stevekhart 14 4.5k 3 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:14AM
You're right stolzy, b*gger isn't it! Wink
Grim1 13 49 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:15AM
Thanks stolzy and steve - presume then there is not such thing as a TTL radio trigger for the Nikon kit?
stevekhart 14 4.5k 3 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:19AM
Nope, if the ttl isn't working outdoors (and you're too far away to use a ttl cord) easiest thing is to revert down to manual flash. Just put in SU-4 trigger mode.
Grim1 13 49 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2008 11:55AM
Thanks, Steve - I'll give it a try.
Ganto 14 769 2 Ireland
5 Mar 2008 4:38PM
The built-in flash can also be used as a commander. A filter is also available to convert it to a "non firing" type.

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paul_bennett 13 210
6 Mar 2008 2:00PM
what about pocket wizards???
Grim1 13 49 United Kingdom
6 Mar 2008 2:11PM
Hi, Paul - as above, pocket wizards don't allow for control using Nikon CLS.

I'm keen to hear from anyone who can comment on the advantages and disadvantages of the SU-800 versus a further SB800 set on master/commander, in terms of range and exposure compensation flexibility.
Strobekid 13 369 United Kingdom
16 Apr 2008 8:19PM
I'll watch this thread. I'm using 1 x SB800, and am in the process of choosing an extra flashgun for outdoor use, and can't decide whether to get SB800 or something else.
Busseauboy 13 159 France
16 Apr 2008 8:26PM
i would go for the SU800. no difficult problems and (relatively!) easy to use.

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Krakman 13 3.6k Scotland
16 Apr 2008 8:26PM

Quote:I'm keen to hear from anyone who can comment on the advantages and disadvantages of the SU-800 versus a further SB800 set on master/commander, in terms of range and exposure compensation flexibility

Don't know about the SB800 so can't comment on how it compares, but I use a SU800 (to control SB-R200's). If you had any specific questions about it, shoot!
Nick-T 14 45 United Kingdom
12 Nov 2008 6:19PM
In my opinion, the SU800 does nothing different to a subsequent SB800. You have in the SB800 the wireless control and the advantage of another speedlight on board if needed.

Having said that, if you got another SB800 im sure you would have a scenario where you could creatively setup that light and hence no trigger Smile

Get both and you're on a winner.

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