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superphil 9 160
18 Jul 2006 6:24PM
unedited, If you can take a picture without editing it you are a truley great photographer. If you can see a great picture and take in the perfect way then thats the best you can be. A photograph that is heavily edited is no longer a photograph it is infact just an image, Its more graphic work than photograph, that is why ephotozine annoys me. The best pictures are always heavily edited, I think this site would be greatly improved by banning edited pictures. Have another site for edited pictures fine but if you've added some guy pointing a flash light where the sun should be, that is simply graphics work, which is great, we all know it is, but its not a photograph.

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davidbailie Plus
12 452 7 United Kingdom
18 Jul 2006 6:38PM
Oh well that's that then - all of you out!

Leaves just me and him Smile

Think of the book we could produce

Dave
superphil 9 160
18 Jul 2006 6:43PM
lol! i though people could just take picture and not edit them i wasn't starting a mass kick out lol! ,but ye that book would be ace
Boyd 11 11.2k 11 Wales
18 Jul 2006 6:44PM

Quote:Think of the book we could produce


But who would edit it?
;o)
JohnHawthorne 9 1.7k 5 Scotland
18 Jul 2006 6:46PM
What's this then? Wink

There's debate on this subject here , here , and here .

That should keep you busy for a while.
Miles Herbert 13 1.8k 4 United Kingdom
18 Jul 2006 6:47PM
Where do you draw the line though? If for example you shoot in RAW format then some form of editing is needed just to get the the image looking true to life. If you hand in your roll of Kodak 200 to the nice girl at the photobooth at Tesco, her machine edits the prints for you... If you develope your own negatives, you can change the look of the images depending on chemicals/timing etc...

LOL @ Boyd!!!

Would Pete then become an "un-editor"? We could have UC's!
KarenFB Plus
9 4.5k 165 England
18 Jul 2006 6:49PM

Quote:Its more graphic work than photograph, that is why ephotozine annoys me,
. You only signed on 9 days ago! If you feel this way, why stay?
starstriders 11 1.6k United Kingdom
18 Jul 2006 6:50PM

Quote:The best pictures are always heavily edited


The best pictures according to who?


Quote:I think this site would be greatly improved by banning edited pictures


There are categories for digital manipulation, traditional darkroom techniques etc. I see no reason why one skill should be banned in favour of another.


Quote:Have another site for edited pictures fine but If you've added some guy pointing a flash light where the sun should be, that is simply graphics work, which is great, we all know it is, but its not a photograph


In fact it is two photographs put together in a clever way.

Excuse the pun but photography as a whole is not as black and white as you make it out to be. Wink
Centurion 10 1.2k England
18 Jul 2006 6:53PM
Who says an edited photograph is no longer photography. It may be digitally manipulated but its still photography.

Turning a colour photo into a black and white photo is a drastic change from the original but you would argue thats it's still photography.
davidbailie Plus
12 452 7 United Kingdom
18 Jul 2006 6:54PM

Quote:But who would edit it?



well......................... US Smile
superphil 9 160
18 Jul 2006 7:14PM
changing a picture to balck and white can be done on the camera, i think anything that can be done on the camera is not editing. If your camera doesn't do black and white, it is fine to edit because your camera is not as good as you would like, but adding things that where never their is far over the top. don't get me wrong i am not totally against editing, i just think editing software should only be used to make the picture more like it looked when it was taken e.g. if the picture is darker than the enviromant was when you where their it would be fine to brighten it
superphil 9 160
18 Jul 2006 7:17PM
and its a fact editing is different because graphics and photography are two completly seperate subjects, I have never seen them studied at the same time or even in a similar way, so when you start to edit it is then graphics work and no longer a photograph but an "image"
Centurion 10 1.2k England
18 Jul 2006 7:18PM

Quote:If your camera doesn't do black and white, it is fine to edit because your camera is not as good as you would like


Im not even going to reply to this statement.....
starstriders 11 1.6k United Kingdom
18 Jul 2006 7:18PM
Can I point you in the direction of John Heartfield's work?
superphil 9 160
18 Jul 2006 7:21PM
put its called "ephotozine" so if i don't think its a photograph then i will have somthing to say won't I? and
Quote:The best pictures according to who?
Well theres a great big dirty picture of a man holding a torch over his picture on the front page, did you miss that? tht says picture of the week over it! oh ye i remember now

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