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The horrendous cost of inkjet inks..


hobbo Plus
10 1.7k 4 England
16 Jul 2021 4:04PM
My, Canon inks have just been delivered…. The whole pack is as light as a feather…… what a con…..?

Hobbo
LenShepherd 13 4.4k United Kingdom
16 Jul 2021 8:00PM
For those who do a lot of printing - if you have the desktop space - consider an A2 printer.

As a rule of thumb you get £500 of extra ink for the perhaps £350 extra cost.

With 80cc cartridges at about 2.5 times the cost of around 10cc with many A3 printers you get a lot more ink for your money.

Ink is wasted each time a cartridge is replaced - which is a lot lest frequent with larger size cartridge printers.
thewilliam2 4 1.6k United Kingdom
17 Jul 2021 2:59PM

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Quote:Why not use a Continuous Ink Supply System?




You can calculate the costs over say a 5-6 years period but you need to know how many prints you will produce and thus how much ink. I used to print around 70 near A3 sized prints a year and calculations showed that, over 5 years, a continuous ink system would cost me slightly more. Had I been printing say 100+ per year, it might have been attractive. Right now I am not printing but even when we get back to normal, I will be down to around 40 prints per year so continuous would be more expensive.

Dave



When making so few prints, why not use a lab?
Dave_Canon 15 2.0k United Kingdom
17 Jul 2021 7:23PM

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When making so few prints, why not use a lab?



Perhaps you did not read my earlier post where I stated - " I could get prints from SimLab for around £1.50 or so. Their colour prints are easily as good as mine though their B&W is not as good. I am happy to spend the extra because a. I enjoy printing myself and b. the quality of B&W is important to me. For most people, I would not think it was worth their while printing themselves."
Also it was the OP who was concerned about the cost of ink not me.

Dave
thewilliam2 4 1.6k United Kingdom
17 Jul 2021 7:52PM
Dave, there are labs that do mono excellent prints and there are plenty of artisan printers.
Dave_Canon 15 2.0k United Kingdom
17 Jul 2021 8:26PM

Quote:Dave, there are labs that do mono excellent prints and there are plenty of artisan printers.


Why bother to argue. I have explained twice that I enjoy printing and want full control. The cost is not an issue for me.

Dave
thewilliam2 4 1.6k United Kingdom
18 Jul 2021 8:12AM

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Quote:Dave, there are labs that do mono excellent prints and there are plenty of artisan printers.


Why bother to argue. I have explained twice that I enjoy printing and want full control. The cost is not an issue for me.

Dave



Sorry, Dave, I'm still thinking like a professional!
miptog 15 3.6k 65 United Kingdom
21 Jul 2021 10:36AM
The very high ink prices are surely making people print less, I know I now only print when I have too. I also find it cheaper to use a lab. The use of social media to send photos has reduced the need to print. Has not the volume of printing diminished considerably? So why not make printing more expensive to even more people don't print!!
Dave_Canon 15 2.0k United Kingdom
21 Jul 2021 11:06AM

Quote:The very high ink prices are surely making people print less, I know I now only print when I have too. I also find it cheaper to use a lab. The use of social media to send photos has reduced the need to print. Has not the volume of printing diminished considerably? So why not make printing more expensive to even more people don't print!!


The person who mainly posts images on Social media probably have little need to print as you suggest. However, the photographer who regularly produce large prints are either professionals (who have to maintain a high standard but can recover costs) or are amateurs who are probably using their prints for competitions. This is nothing new and it has been like that as long as I can remember. When I produced prints via darkroom, it was not cheap either but, if it is to be all your own work, you had to produce them yourself. You say you now print less due to cost but it has always been much cheaper to print at a commercial lab than print to print your own. Apart from COVID which has stopped most print competitions for 12 months now, I suspect/hope that we will get back to normal in the next few months. My wife occasionally wants a few prints and does tend to use a print service rather than print her own but she is not concerned about achieving a competition standard. So I do not think that ink prices have any connection with reduced printing as I think it it is all down to COVID and changing social patterns.

Dave

altitude50 17 21.5k United Kingdom
21 Jul 2021 1:23PM
I never print my photos at home. The way I look at it is that the printing houses have very good machines, trained operatives and more choices of papers and finishes than I could ever have.
If I send off for 3 or 4 10x8 or 12x8 prints and pay for the postage, they work out cheaper than doing it at home, much better than I could ever achieve and I have never had to complain about the quality.
pink Plus
18 6.7k 8 United Kingdom
21 Jul 2021 4:05PM
Personally I see the printing the final process of my Photography, I don't consider the job done until I have a print in my hand, nothing beats that moment, that sense of achievement, a commercial printer could never do that for me.
I am fairly lucky that I can sell a few prints that help to offset my costs.
It is not a cheap process but the same applies for cameras and lenses, where i do not upgrade very often, mostly only when I have to, due to something failing or breaking.
I have invested in an A2 printer that takes 80ml cartridges, this has cut my ink cost by more than half as i was using 13ml cartridges in my previous A3 printer.
It can be an expensive hobby, but I don't drink (much) or smoke so I am happy to spend money on something that gives me a lot in return.
Sorry to ramble
Ian
LenShepherd 13 4.4k United Kingdom
23 Jul 2021 9:59AM

Quote:Personally I see the printing the final process of my Photography, I don't consider the job done until I have a print in my hand, nothing beats that moment, that sense of achievement, a commercial printer could never do that for me.


I agree this philosophy.
"Affordable Lab" prints are usually sRGB of limited colour gamut with decent as distinct from highest print quality.

Home printing on a good wide gamut inkjet printer costs distinctly more per print than "affordable" lab quality and - as in many things photographic - it takes time and effort to reach a high standard.

Lab hand printing to the highest standard is also expensive.
peterjones 19 5.1k 1 United Kingdom
23 Jul 2021 10:06AM
Commercially I use DSC labs if I just want proof prints; for fine prints I use One Vision.

For myself I use my now "venerable" Epson Stylus Pro 3880 with its 80ml. ink cartridges; if and when it breaks down I will get it repaired so fond of it as I am not by Epsom but by a workshop near me that specialises in repairs to large format Epsoms.
hobbo Plus
10 1.7k 4 England
23 Jul 2021 12:14PM
As the original poster to this thread, and if the one outlining the huge problems I had in wirelessly connecting my new CANON TS 705 printer to my Windows 10 computer…. It flatly refused, so many times that I was almost ready to bin it….. Thankfully a suggestion on a YouTube. Idea saved the day…..it was to ..delete the printer then re-connect it using the supplied DVD ….then, after connection…update the driver online…..

It WORKED ! ….But….there remains a little trick to keep it connected…. On finishing work, instead of turning off the PC I put it in…SLEEP -mode….leaving the Printer …ON……

The printer has remained online and connected since….it switches itself off after a prescribed time….

Also, the printer is working beautifully as it should, including printing an…Exhibition Quality…black and white …photograph…without a hint of a tint from blue or purple…. I typed in the specified paper type and the settings for it…then the printer to AUTO ….

Mind you…at just under £60 for the basic set of inks I should hope it would perform well..

Hobbo
saltireblue Plus
11 12.0k 75 Norway
23 Jul 2021 1:05PM

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