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Third Party Lenses: Pros and Cons


Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
5 Nov 2022 12:23AM
I am (perhaps) a bit unusual in that I have never owned a lens not made by the manufacturer of whatever caneta body I happen to be using.

I need to qualify that, a little bit, by saying I've used MFT Panasonic lenses on Olympus cameras. But that's a different ballgame.

So... do you third party lenses? If so what are the pluses and minuses?

saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
5 Nov 2022 7:47AM
I have a Fuji body and 2 Fuji lenses. One because it came as a bundle with the body, and i saved money; the other because I couldn't find any third party equivalent (27mm pancake).
My third lens is the Sigma 56mm f/1.4, which I bought instead of the far cheaper equivalent from Viltrox, because the image IQ is so much better, and at the same time it is also nearly half the price of the Fuji equivalent, which does not give noticeably better IQ.
Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
5 Nov 2022 10:33AM

Quote:My third lens is the Sigma 56mm f/1.4


Exactly what I've recently been considering! Do you use it much, Malc? And if so, what for?
saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
5 Nov 2022 10:44AM

Quote:
Quote:My third lens is the Sigma 56mm f/1.4


Exactly what I've recently been considering! Do you use it much, Malc? And if so, what for?


It's my 'go-to' lens for street. I use it more than the 27mm now...
LenShepherd Avatar
LenShepherd 15 4.7k United Kingdom
5 Nov 2022 11:43AM
I occasionally use third party brand lenses, often good value for money - though there can be potential pitfalls to consider.

One plus is that more get sold because they are usually offered in a range of mounts - whereas camera manufacturers lenses only fit their own lens mount. This usually results in more third part lenses being sold and thus lower priced.

A possible downside for Nikon, Canon and L mount FF ML photographers is that if a lens design would benefit from a wider bayonet mount (it does not always), the narrow Sony bayonet mount can limit optical performance.

Independent brands tend to get products on the market sooner - with 150-600 independent zooms being all there was in the focal length range for a few years.

Often but not always manufacturers lenses have higher resolution - sometimes at double the price. Interestingly Tamron are now officially co-operating with Nikon making some Nikon Z mount lenses at around half the price point of higher resolving Nikon near equivalent S grade lenses.

Is higher resolution always needed - you decide Grin
While the top performing lenses from Nikon and Canon have up to about 70% more resolution in an MTF 50 test than Olympus and Fuji "crop sensor combinations" - I consider if a photographer cannot easily produce a good 20x16 inch print from most current Olympus and Fuji - maybe the photographers skill is suspect.

Still on resolution - MTF 50 tests usually score at least 15% higher on a 45 MP camera than on a 24 MP camera.

Older independent brand lenses do not always work on the latest cameras - and sometimes cannot even be updated - with some potential obsolescence. On the other hand Canon FD lenses from about 25 years ago do not work on EOS bodies - and Nikon "screwdriver AF" lenses do not AF on Nikon ML bodies.

Grays of Westminster recently tested a Z mount Voigthlander manual focus Z mount lens and found although good manual focus images could be taken via the viewfinder, focus peaking not working with this lens could be a limitation.

Summing up - with appropriate research - I consider independent brand lenses can be a viable option for many photographers.
Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
5 Nov 2022 8:03PM

Quote:It's my 'go-to' lens for street. I use it more than the 27mm now...


Interesting. On APS-C 56mm (FF equiv= 84mm) is a portrait lens.
Archie2022 Avatar
Archie2022 1 121 Germany
6 Nov 2022 10:08AM
On my Sony bodies I use Sony (and Zeiss Batis) as well as independent brand lenses. Sony doesn´t always offer the glas I want or their lenses are too expensiv. For example I like the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 Di III VXD G 2 (what a name) and I use it very often. It´s much cheaper and lighter than the Sony equivalent and it offers very good quality - for my requirements. In one sentence: I buy and use the lens I need and don´t really care, who made it (as long as I can afford it).
Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
6 Nov 2022 11:31AM
One of my Sony bodies does not have built in stabilisation. Most 3rd party lenses don't have it either. Nor do many Sony lenses of course.

It does slightly inhibit my choice. I guess it shouldn't because the other body does have stabilisation.
Nigeyboy Avatar
Nigeyboy 15 1.1k United Kingdom
6 Nov 2022 2:14PM
I shoot Canon and currently only have Canon lenses. However in the past I have owned a number of Tamron and Sigma lenses. In fact after getting my first DSLR in 2007 (Canon 400D), I purchased a Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5. It was a big step up from the kit lens and it was my only lens for a good few years. It was pretty sharp and focussed well, despite the whiny noise of the motor!!

I think third party lenses are good way for users on a tight budget to get the focal lengths they perhaps couldn't afford with the main manufacturer. You just need to look at the lenses Sigma are turning out now to see that!
altitude50 Avatar
altitude50 19 23.9k United Kingdom
6 Nov 2022 5:21PM
As well as modern Sigma & Tamron lenses I have a Tokina 100mm Macro Sony E fit and until recently a Nikon fit Tokina 17-35 mm both excellent quality.
Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
8 Nov 2022 5:29PM
I am very tempted by certain third party prime lenses I must say.

But to be honest, zooms are so versatile - especially when you are grabbing shots at events - that I hesitate. And manufacturers' zooms are fine, by and large, in terms of providing the results I need including for publication sometimes.
DaveRyder Avatar
DaveRyder Plus
9 7.2k 22 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2022 9:17PM
When I got my E-M5iii I chose the 14-150 kit with it as it weather protected.
Previously had the Tamron 14-150 MFT lens and it was a lovely piece of glass.
Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
9 Nov 2022 12:16PM
So tempted by this bit of Sigma glass:

LINK

Maybe someone will talk me out of it! 😀

The issue for me is always how much use will I make of it? This is, for APS-C, a portrait lens but I don't really do portraits other than candids. For other indoor use it may be a bit long. A dilemma.
saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
9 Nov 2022 2:02PM

Quote:So tempted by this bit of Sigma glass:

LINK

Maybe someone will talk me out of it! 😀

The issue for me is always how much use will I make of it? This is, for APS-C, a portrait lens but I don't really do portraits other than candids. For other indoor use it may be a bit long. A dilemma.



If the quality is the same as the Fuji version they launched, and which I have bought, then it is a superb little lens. I use it for street work in situations where I cannot get close enough to use my 27mm, and find that cropping does not present any problems at all.
Carabosse Avatar
Carabosse Plus
20 44.3k 270 England
9 Nov 2022 2:16PM
Malc you're talking me into it, not out of it! 😱🤣

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