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UK Police Claim Filming Them Is an Offence


Just Jas Plus
15 26.1k 1 England
23 May 2008 11:41AM
To fly the English or Union Jack flags outside your house I guess that you would have to move to the States.

As I understand it, only the Euro flag can be legally flown here. This is the one flag that I would not want to fly!

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doug_7 11 482 England
23 May 2008 11:54AM

Quote:Quote:A motorist in Melksham, Wiltshire was told by the police to remove the England flag from his parcel shelf because it could be offensive to immigrantsSounds like one of those fake stories that the BNP spread and get people to forward by email. Any truth in it?


Well it made front page headlines in the Wiltshire Times. His name is Ben Smith and the reporter was Charley Morgan. There is a photograph of him, his car and the flag.
Rightly so, you should not believe everything you read in the papers because journalists live on a different planet than the rest of us. Seems a lot of trouble to go through to make up a story like this, I think I`ll go with the paper on this one, pity he didn`t video it.
pepperst 9 2.3k 4 Wales
23 May 2008 12:16PM
Any comment from the police on it?

No mention of the story on the website nor the polices site, or is it a random twisting events on a slow news day
Lou_C 10 755 2 England
23 May 2008 1:05PM

Quote:To fly the English or Union Jack flags outside your house I guess that you would have to move to the States.

As I understand it, only the Euro flag can be legally flown here. This is the one flag that I would not want to fly!

No, you can fly any national flag without permission as long as it is flown on a vertical pole. Until recently planning permission was needed to fly the EU flag because it was classed as advertising, however last year that was changed and the EU flag was brought in line with the national flags
stolzy 11 3.8k 7
23 May 2008 1:40PM
Has this become a thread for unsubstantiated, almost certainly apocryphal, tales? What about the axe murderer banging a head on the roof of a car, or the EU and straight bananas, or the monkey that worked as a crane driver....
I've heard of thread-drift, but...
ardbeg77 13 1.2k 6 Sao Tome And Principe
23 May 2008 1:51PM
Winterval is the best....it's trotted out every year - we're banning Christmas...... not Smile
pepperst 9 2.3k 4 Wales
23 May 2008 2:13PM
You know its christmas when you get the winterval story.

Good to know you can always relay on Littlejohn or any other Mail/Telegraph commentater to completly ignore the facts and make up a good story as opposed to doing some good intelligent journalism.
JohnnyGraham 11 102 Scotland
23 May 2008 2:55PM
the flag thing sounds like the police exercising the much beloved trump card of 'section 5'

tho the on the spot fine part sounds wierd.
doug_7 11 482 England
23 May 2008 3:05PM

Quote:Any comment from the police on it?

No mention of the story on the website nor the polices site, or is it a random twisting events on a slow news day



you are right, just checked their web site.
If you have a look, click pictures for sale and you will see him, flag and car.
Sorry for the thread drift, just thought it interesting (if you are English that is) I thought this Mr Plod is as wacky as the two in the video.
Just checked with a photographer on the Wiltshire Times and the story is true.
doug_7 11 482 England
23 May 2008 3:09PM
Just lifted this from the Wiltshire Times Web Site.

Motorist told flag could be racist
By Charley Morgan

Ben Smith with the St George flag in his car
A TEENAGE motorist was told to remove an England flag from his car by a police officer because it could be offensive to immigrants.

Ben Smith, 18, was driving back home to Ingram Road in Melksham on Thursday evening after filling up with petrol, when the officer stopped him on a routine patrol.

He checked the tax disc and tyres on his Vauxhall Corsa but when he noticed the flag of St George on the parcel shelf he told Mr Smith to take it down.

Mr Smith, who works for G Plan Upholsterers on Hampton Park West, said: "He saw the flag and said it was racist towards immigrants and if I refused to take it down I would get a 30 fine.

"I laughed because I thought he was joking, but then I realised he was serious so I had to take it down straight away. I thought it was silly - it's my country and I want to show my support for my country."

Mr Smith had recently installed new speakers in the parcel shelf of his car and wanted to cover them up so they did not get stolen.

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He used the flag and laid it out flat on the shelf so it was not obscuring his view out of the rear window.

But it was only there a couple of days before he was stopped by the officer at about 9.30pm close to Melksham Enterprise Park and made to take it down.

He said he is used to getting stopped by the police because he is a young male driver and is often mistaken for a boy racer'.

But he thought it was "a bit strange" to be asked to take down the England flag when the officer found nothing else wrong with his car.

PC Dave Cooper, of Chippenham Road Policing Unit, said he had never come across an officer asking someone to remove an England flag from their car because it could be racist.

He added: "It all depends on the context of a stop. If they are going past a lot of Polish people, for instance, and abusing them, then we possibly would ask them to take the flag down."

He said there would be no police log of Mr Smith having been stopped with details of what was said to him, as there was nothing wrong with his car.

He added the officer could have been based anywhere around the county and just made an independent stop.
conrad 12 10.9k 116
23 May 2008 3:19PM
Outrageous. Overly PC policeman.
stolzy 11 3.8k 7
23 May 2008 3:26PM
In other words - it's all made up. Big surprise.
pepperst 9 2.3k 4 Wales
23 May 2008 4:36PM
So no real evidence to back up the story except one persons word and an eger journo
DaveCole 10 152 Wales
23 May 2008 5:55PM

Quote:Quote:communal ally path.garden denialists are everywhere!
HEHEHE make me laugh
Just Jas Plus
15 26.1k 1 England
24 May 2008 10:43AM

Quote:No, you can fly any national flag without permission as long as it is flown on a vertical pole.


A shopkeeper was fined a a not to far away Local Council for flying the Union Jack.

He was told that he could only fly the Euro flag.

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