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Unauthorised downloading from epz


barryyoungnz Avatar
30 May 2019 5:54AM
I take a lot of local in-concert photos and I like to send the musicians involved a link to the album I create on epz.
What protection do I have against subsequent un-athorised downloading from epz.
Also if I choose to send a copy to a musician for say, facebook use but not for printed publication, is there a file size that I should restrict it to? Many thanks. Barry Young NZ
sausage Avatar
sausage 19 704 United Kingdom
30 May 2019 8:11AM
I always think that once you upload to the internet then anyone can have potential access to the images. They don't need to download them - print screen will get you there, although at reduced quality. You could put a watermark over them.

For Facebook, keep the image size small - less that a 1000px for example.

saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
30 May 2019 8:16AM
Although all images in the ePz galleries are right-click protected, the truth is that any image uploaded to the internet can easily be copied by someone with just a small amount of technical knowledge.

The only 100% guarantee against unauthorized copying is, I'm afraid, to not upload any images. That's the simple truth.

As for sending someone a copy for FB, then the recommended size which avoids quality issues caused by compression is 2048 pixels on the longest side. I don't know what size applies on other sites.
You could, when sending a copy, get the other party to agree to restrict the usage to FB, and offer to sell them larger files in printed publication quality if required.
bornstupix2 Avatar
bornstupix2 6 131 1 France
30 May 2019 10:41AM
I seem to remember some time back an EPZ member writing in about an image of a soldiers statue and a poppy flower that was posted all over the internet without permission or even a credit. It seems to me the word share crops up on these sites all the time and im sure that if that is implied there will be little in law that will stand up to scrutiny.
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franken Plus
21 5.8k 4 United Kingdom
30 May 2019 12:24PM
I had several of my image s copied but from a site I stopped using some time ago. I've identified several being used elsewhere and emails soon put an end to it. There's always a risk if you put pictures online and watermaking helps but determined people will work at removing them.
All were discovered by using Google image search.
Jestertheclown Avatar
Jestertheclown 14 8.8k 255 England
30 May 2019 6:04PM
The fact is that, whatever you do, if someone wants to download an image; regardless of how well protected site owners might think it is, they will be able to download it.
The "disable right click and save" thing is easily bypassed, just Google it; no technical knowledge required and there are other, only marginally more complicated methods available if you dig a little deeper.
Watermarks, unless they're so intrusive that you can't see the image, are usually easily removed.
The only way to be sure that no-one's going to download your image is to not upload it in the first place.
saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
30 May 2019 6:12PM

Quote:The fact is that, whatever you do, if someone wants to download an image; regardless of how well protected site owners might think it is, they will be able to download it.
The "disable right click and save" thing is easily bypassed, just Google it; no technical knowledge required and there are other, only marginally more complicated methods available if you dig a little deeper.
Watermarks, unless they're so intrusive that you can't see the image, are usually easily removed.
The only way to be sure that no-one's going to download your image is to not upload it in the first place.


As I have already said...

And, watermarks have nothing to do with the ease or otherwise of downloading images...Smile
Jestertheclown Avatar
Jestertheclown 14 8.8k 255 England
30 May 2019 6:17PM

Quote:
And, watermarks have nothing to do with the ease or otherwise of downloading images...Smile


They do indirectly.

They can be a deterrent to a casual downloader; someone who otherwise just fancies using your image as it is.

saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 89 Norway
30 May 2019 6:34PM

Quote:
Quote:
And, watermarks have nothing to do with the ease or otherwise of downloading images...Smile


They do indirectly.

They can be a deterrent to a casual downloader; someone who otherwise just fancies using your image as it is.



Barry asked:

Quote:What protection do I have against subsequent un-athorised downloading from epz.

A watermark is no protection. Maybe a deterrent for some, but with PS today, removal is a doddle.
Jestertheclown Avatar
Jestertheclown 14 8.8k 255 England
30 May 2019 6:56PM
Alright then, I'll rephrase it; watermarks can protect your image from being downloaded by a casual downloader who doesn't use Photoshop.

That description will fit thousands of Bookface loving teenagers.
barryyoungnz Avatar
30 May 2019 8:47PM
My sincerst thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion.
This has been very helpful.
cantona43 Avatar
cantona43 18 928 4 United Kingdom
2 Jun 2019 7:43PM
A few years ago I was browsing through the photo gallery on this site and to my horror I spotted a image I had uploaded to my portfolio had been copied and uploaded into the gallery by another member. He had not edited it in anyway I reported this and it was quickly removed by Pete, I just could not believe how rude some people are it is so infuriating but we will never stop it
Regards Neil

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