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SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
16 Dec 2019 2:58PM
Can anyone advise whether it's better to upgrade to a newer version of software via a download, or buy (albeit more expensive) the disc for the program? I want to upgrade Elements 14 to Elements 20 but am not sure if my very old pics will be compatible with the newer version.
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saltireblue Plus
13 14.8k 92 Norway
16 Dec 2019 3:10PM
If you download a trial version of the software you are thinking of upgrading to - after backing-up your current version on an external hard-disk, just in case you lose it - then you can try your old images. If they are not compatible because the camera used is not supported by the new version, then reinstall your old version.
SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
16 Dec 2019 3:18PM
When you say back up my current version, I do have the disc for E14 so I wouldn't need to copy it - is that correct?
I did wonder about the trial version but I've often run two or more versions at the same time using discs as I feel safer that way.
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saltireblue Plus
13 14.8k 92 Norway
16 Dec 2019 3:34PM
Even easier if you have the disc. If the new version over-writes the old one then you simply reinstall from the disc...
Sometimes the download procedure will ask if you want to keep or remove the older version...
Big Bri Avatar
Big Bri 22 16.7k United Kingdom
17 Dec 2019 9:03AM
I'd bet significant amounts of money that Adobe are not going to release software that doesn't support old image files.
SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
17 Dec 2019 12:31PM

Quote:I'd bet significant amounts of money that Adobe are not going to release software that doesn't support old image files.

Yes, I think I'll just get the upgrade and have done with it.
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LenShepherd 15 4.7k United Kingdom
18 Dec 2019 7:33AM
The upgrade is likely to cost about 7-8 months subscription to full Lightroom/PhotoShop - which is a far more capable post processing system with free upgrades, a decent chunk of Cloud storage, free web-site hosting and provision to provide a link of a selection of your images held in the Cloud.
Which is best - no contest. Which you want to pay for is for you to decide.
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JJGEE 18 8.1k 18 England
18 Dec 2019 7:55AM

Quote:Which is best - no contest

Perhaps people do not need free upgrades, cloud storage, free web-site hosting etc. so Elements, is best for their their requirements / needs ?

SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
18 Dec 2019 8:04AM

Quote:The upgrade is likely to cost about 7-8 months subscription to full Lightroom/PhotoShop - which is a far more capable post processing system with free upgrades, a decent chunk of Cloud storage, free web-site hosting and provision to provide a link of a selection of your images held in the Cloud.
Which is best - no contest. Which you want to pay for is for you to decide.


Thanks Len but I don't want or need all that. I know what I like. Smile
SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
19 Dec 2019 3:24PM
Have just downloaded Canon's DPP4 to try to avoid upgrading Elements but, blimey, what a clunky bit of faff. Upgrade it is. Adobe all the way.
SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
19 Dec 2019 4:12PM
Have been having a conversation on line with Adobe who don't seem to grasp what I want to know. Perhaps someone on here will know.
If I upgrade, will I have to reload NIK Efex (I have the old free version still), and will all my settings be the same or will I have to reset them all?
I'm going around in circles on line.
Cheers

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Jestertheclown 15 8.8k 255 England
19 Dec 2019 4:47PM

Quote:
If I upgrade, will I have to reload NIK Efex (I have the old free version still), and will all my settings be the same or will I have to reset them all?


I'm not sure about Elements but when reinstalling Photoshop I've always kept the "plug ins" folder from the outgoing version and placed it manually into the "new" Photoshop in the programmes folder.
In fact, I keep a copy of it in case the one in use should become corrupted.
Alternatively, of course, you can still download and instal the "old" Nik.
I just find it easier to recycle the folder.
I seem to recall someone; perhaps Adobe even, saying that the "plug ins" folder should automatically migrate to the new software but it's never done so for me.
As for your settings (preferences?), I think you'll need to start over.
saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.8k 92 Norway
19 Dec 2019 5:06PM

Quote:I seem to recall someone; perhaps Adobe even, saying that the "plug ins" folder should automatically migrate to the new software but it's never done so for me.
As for your settings (preferences?), I think you'll need to start over.


And I seem to recall that during the installation process, it detected the older version with the plug-ins and asked if I wanted to migrate them to the new version. I believe (not quite 100% sure) also that preferences need to be reset manually after installation.
But as it is an easy task to re-download Nik, as Jester says, if that proves necessary, then it's no biggie.
SlowSong Avatar
SlowSong Plus
15 11.3k 30 England
19 Dec 2019 5:31PM
Thanks Jester and Malc. I just like to be forewarned about these things. I knew that installing a completely new version required fiddling about with, but wasn't sure about an upgrade. Cheers. Smile
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pink Plus
20 7.5k 11 England
20 Dec 2019 7:05AM
On my latest PS upgrade my Nik Collection dissapeared from my plug-ins (although On1 was still there)
I just copied it from the previous version and dropped the folder into the new version, took about 30 seconds.

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