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Vaccine - Covid 19
Quote:I can't understand why they are making such a fuss over 'the first person to be vaccinated' this morning. What about the tens of thousands brave souls who actually tested it! (In my humble opinion they are the heros-of-the-hour, yet there is no mention of them!).
Totally agree, but this is about PR and getting the message out.
It’s typical of this government, all about chasing headlines rather than being honest and transparent.
Equating ‘V day’ with WWII symbolism about victory is reckless.
Equating ‘V day’ with WWII symbolism about victory is reckless.
Quote:It’s typical of this government, all about chasing headlines rather than being honest and transparent.
Equating ‘V day’ with WWII symbolism about victory is reckless.
Just waiting for that tos*er in No.10 to tell us that this couldn't have happened if we were still in the EU...
Some have already done that Malc .. and been put right about their lies.
Some very interesting information here.
Quote:...the Leader of the House of Commons, Jacob Rees-Mogg, tweeted: "We could only approve this vaccine so quickly because we have left the EU."
But... It was actually permitted under EU law, a point made by the head of the UK's medicines regulator on Wednesday.
Under European law a vaccine must be authorised by the EMA, but individual countries can use an emergency procedure that allows them to distribute a vaccine for temporary use in their domestic market.
Britain is still subject to those EU rules during the post-Brexit transition period which runs until the end of the year.
The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month.
And its chief executive, Dr June Raine, said on Wednesday that "we have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January".
... the fact that the UK is the first country in the world to approve this vaccine has got nothing directly to do with Brexit.
Quote:...the Leader of the House of Commons, Jacob Rees-Mogg, tweeted: "We could only approve this vaccine so quickly because we have left the EU."
But... It was actually permitted under EU law, a point made by the head of the UK's medicines regulator on Wednesday.
Under European law a vaccine must be authorised by the EMA, but individual countries can use an emergency procedure that allows them to distribute a vaccine for temporary use in their domestic market.
Britain is still subject to those EU rules during the post-Brexit transition period which runs until the end of the year.
The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month.
And its chief executive, Dr June Raine, said on Wednesday that "we have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January".
... the fact that the UK is the first country in the world to approve this vaccine has got nothing directly to do with Brexit.
Quote:... the fact that the UK is the first country in the world to approve this vaccine has got nothing directly to do with Brexit.
But the sheeple will still believe all the lies that politicians keep telling them. I should know - I was once a sheeple - but I've seen the light...(or is that the train coming down the the tunnel?
).I don't listen seriously to many politicians anymore because they simply can't say anything true that might be regarded as off-message - they're mostly beholden to big business and the largely complicit media.
Can we not just be happy the 1st has been approved and the Oxford one not too far behind (hopefully).
Even as a Tory (yes I voted for Boris twice last year) I am just grateful to the Biochemists and companies who might just get me out and about by April without having to wear a face rag. Best Christmas present the country has got as far as I can see.
Even as a Tory (yes I voted for Boris twice last year) I am just grateful to the Biochemists and companies who might just get me out and about by April without having to wear a face rag. Best Christmas present the country has got as far as I can see.
Dave you’re missing the point, I’m as happy as a happy happy thing about the vaccines, I’ve been following some people on twitter for over 7 months who share their knowledge publicly so that there is some transparency. It’s in everyone’s interests for there to be a high uptake in the vaccines, and I’ve been avidly watching their posts, always encouraged but they always provide a note of caution especially when you start rolling a vaccine out. The government is getting the messaging muddled again, and that could have an effect on uptake - slower uptake= longer wearing that mask!!!
In fact I will add that one of those vaccine specialist has a flu vaccine that could get rid of the need for the annual one but has taken him years to get into trials - it’s about to happen now.
In fact I will add that one of those vaccine specialist has a flu vaccine that could get rid of the need for the annual one but has taken him years to get into trials - it’s about to happen now.
I will be happy when 66+ million in the UK have had the vaccine. 
I will be last on the queue once millions of human guinea pigs have had the benefit of a vaccine rushed through in a few months - when the norm is about 5-8 years.
There are already warnings (from official sources) about the likelihood of significant adverse effects. I will be very interested to see how things pan out.
To all those wanting to be early recipients of the vaccine, I genuinely and sincerely wish you the very best of luck.
I will be last on the queue once millions of human guinea pigs have had the benefit of a vaccine rushed through in a few months - when the norm is about 5-8 years.
There are already warnings (from official sources) about the likelihood of significant adverse effects. I will be very interested to see how things pan out.
To all those wanting to be early recipients of the vaccine, I genuinely and sincerely wish you the very best of luck.
Quote:I will be happy when 66+ million in the UK have had the vaccine.
I will be last on the queue once millions of human guinea pigs have had the benefit of a vaccine rushed through in a few months - when the norm is about 5-8 years.
There are already warnings (from official sources) about the likelihood of significant adverse effects. I will be very interested to see how things pan out.
To all those wanting to be early recipients of the vaccine, I genuinely and sincerely wish you the very best of luck.
I am one of the sceptics. I have no desire to take an untried vaccine - yes, it is untried as far as long-term effects are concerned - as I do not want to end up suffering with an as yet unseen/unknown side-effect in a few years time...
Edit: According to one poll today as many at 18% of the population are thinking of not taking it...
Quote:According to one poll today as many at 18% of the population are thinking of not taking it...
That doesn't surprise me.
We should all desperately hope that the brave souls who have been through the trials for the vaccine and those who are now being vaccinated are going to continue to be without side effects.
As I said before, I think we should have insisted on pharmaceutical companies accepting liability for any possible serious side effects from these vaccinations. In view of this appalling situation, I'm surprised there aren't a lot more than 18% refusing to take the vaccination.
As I've said before, as with so many other issues, there is a lack of transparency on this issue.
If there are side effects they apparently show themselves within 1-2 months. So those that have already been through the trials any side effects would have been included in the data. Has anyone read the side effects of every medicine we put in our bodies but still take it anyway?
Quote:If there are side effects they apparently show themselves within 1-2 months. So those that have already been through the trials any side effects would have been included in the data. Has anyone read the side effects of every medicine we put in our bodies but still take it anyway?
Yes, things do look fairly promising but by definition, long term effects cannot be ruled out until after at least a few months.
Quote:Has anyone read the side effects of every medicine we put in our bodies but still take it anyway?
Yes, but side effects from medicines can usually be reversed if we stop taking the offending pills: I think vaccine side effects could be more likely to be permanent.
Sorry if I seem to be being awkward on this issue but I'm merely trying to see both sides - I'm not saying what is the right or wrong thing to do.
It’s the same with a lot of vaccines, I can’t have the Polio booster vaccine and had to have an exemption certificate for when I moved to the Middle East for a while. I could however, have the yellow fever one.
