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Vaccine - Covid 19

Quote:And just to add since it’s missed out of some news stories on this (surprise, surprise)
Quote:It is understood that both the staff members had a significant history of allergic reactions - to the extent where they need to carry an adrenaline auto injector with them.
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Well, fancy that. Why give us all the details when there's an alternative story to be told?
Good to get this update.

Why are some surprised that some people could have an allergic reaction. When I had my flu jab recently the pharmacist checked that I had no record of an allergic reaction in the past but was also ready to administer adrenaline with an autoinjector. He told me that if there was to be such a reaction, it would occur in less than 2 mins. He explained all this just to detain me the 2 mins but nothing happened.
Dave
Dave

Quote:I would say to anyone who follows the line “I’ll have the vaccine once I see everybody else have it and see that it’s safe”
Actually don’t bother, you’re not worth the cost of the syringe.
I think that if government bodies and pharmaceutical businesses were more transparent and trustworthy, the public would more readily accept vaccination.
I for one would volunteer to be vaccinated very soon if only I knew I could have some degree of trust in the powers that be.
There is a lot of money to be made in pharmaceuticals - Big Pharma is worth billions already and making further billions from Covid.
Why do they not have the confidence in their products to accept liability if things go horribly wrong?
It does NOT inspire confidence in the population...
Of course, the vaccines probably are safe but governments and the complicit media who condemn fake information and anti-vaxxers should look closer to home and clean their own house of fake information.

Quote:Garth, if we all listened to you, we'd still have men with red flags running in front of our cars.
Why can't you, just for once, accept that something positive has taken place without turning it into yet another swipe at authority?
If you read again what I said previously on this thread I did in fact say that I think it is good news that a vaccine has been created. I'm simply saying that the news is marred because of a lack of transparency. I'm simply saying that I have some sympathy with the more rational anti-vaxxers. That does not necessarily mean I won't have a vaccination.
As to "taking yet another swipe at authority": I certainly make no apologies for that because many of the authorities are responsible for the mess we are in.
Instead of taking swipes at me, why don't you try answering my points for a change?

I’m with Garth partly in this, we should be able to question the science and ask for answers to questions - it’s the one way to be able to gain trust. However, there also needs to be some acceptance or we never move forward but maybe that’s in someways down to how social media allows bad actors to propagate fears.
Garth can you explain how you think ‘Big ‘Pharma has made money out of Covid?
Garth can you explain how you think ‘Big ‘Pharma has made money out of Covid?

Quote:Instead of taking swipes at me, why don't you try answering my points for a change?
I'm not having a swipe at you: rather, I'm simply pointing out that your response, regardless of the thread's original subject, is to turn it into an opportunity to complain about the government/police/anyone with some kind of authority, which doesn't usually have any bearing upon that thread's original subject.
As for answering your points; I've tried that but it's always been pointless.
Your responses have always been thus.

Quote:I'm not having a swipe at you: rather, I'm simply pointing out that your response, regardless of the thread's original subject, is to turn it into an opportunity to complain about the government/police/anyone with some kind of authority, which doesn't usually have any bearing upon that thread's original subject.
Of course my criticism of governments has a bearing on the subject of the thread!
How can you say otherwise?! The governments of the world are responsible for dealing with Covid and commissioning any vaccines that are developed.
Obviously individuals also have a responsibility for behaving rationally in this situation but they are hindered by the bad examples,
corruption and lack of transparency shown by governments and largely unregulated big business.
I'm not an anarchist - I believe in the rule of law and a reasonably ordered society: but I don't believe in the rule of law that favours the rich and powerful at the expense of the rest of us.