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Why is the media so nasty towards Harry and Meghan? Do we really need the Monarchy?


gcarth Plus
15 3.4k 1 United Kingdom
10 Jan 2020 4:05PM
Do many people actually take any notice of the vicious media anymore? Not too many, I hope.
Why does the media treat its readers with such contempt? Any rational being can see that Harry and Meghan might have very good reasons to turn their backs on the Monarchy - and indeed, the media.
Our media doesn't know the meaning of nuanced, possible alternative reasons for anything - It's only interested in binary and over-simplistic rationales. The media was keen enough to give OTT praise and publicity to Harry and Meghan but now they are determined to savage them like a bunch of jackals.
A grown-up, civilised society doesn't need a Monarchy: The whole concept of the Monarchy merely perpetuates the class system which in turn perpetuates the idea that certain individuals are more equal than others by birthright.

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altitude50 15 16.9k United Kingdom
10 Jan 2020 4:45PM
Taking the idea of East & West Sussex to a new level.Sad
hobbo Plus
8 1.4k 3 England
10 Jan 2020 6:38PM
Aha....better a monarchy than a president or a dictator methinks.

Another pebble on the pool of life 🤗
Carabosse 16 41.4k 270 England
10 Jan 2020 7:52PM

Quote:A grown-up, civilised society doesn't need a Monarchy


The Queen or President Trump (or indeed President Putin). Which is to be preferred.... hmm, quite a poser! confused2-light.jpg





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gcarth Plus
15 3.4k 1 United Kingdom
10 Jan 2020 8:49PM

Quote:Aha....better a monarchy than a president or a dictator methinks.

Another pebble on the pool of life 🤗

Well, I certainly agree that our modern monarchy is better than having a dictator.
I would also agree that, in practice at least, various presidents don't have a very impressive record.
However, I believe that in principle that the concept of a monarchy is outdated and quite offensive because of the completely unjustifiable privilege that the monarchy receives.

Quote:The Queen or President Trump (or indeed President Putin). Which is to be preferred.... hmm, quite a poser!



Trump - at least he's entertaining Smile. If the world is heading for WW111 at least we will go down laughing!SadWink
JackAllTog Plus
10 5.8k 58 United Kingdom
10 Jan 2020 10:03PM
Two quite distinct questions - the Media, particularly social media thrives on shock and polarised opinions.
Imagine the whole stupid world arguing over your life/partner/hobbies etc its not a nice position.

i think we neither NEED nor don't NEED the Monarchy, though they do significantly lift the UK above the day to day Boris/Jeremy/Jo ebb and flow of schoolboy politics. I don't envy their working position one bit.
thewilliam2 2 1.3k
10 Jan 2020 11:38PM
For the whole of her reign, the Queen has kept the moral high ground and maintained the support of the people but I'm not sure that her successors will keep the same standards.

I shouldn't be surprised if she's our last monarch.
Carabosse 16 41.4k 270 England
11 Jan 2020 3:05AM
I have very mixed feelings about our monarchy.

With an unelected head of state and an unelected second Parliamentary chamber, we still preach to other countries about the merits of democracy without the slightest blush!

gcarth Plus
15 3.4k 1 United Kingdom
11 Jan 2020 10:25AM

Quote:I don't envy their working position one bit.
That's right. I get a bit angry about the monarchy perpetuating inequality but at the same time, I actually feel a bit sorry for them - not being able or allowed to engage with the real world.

Quote:With an unelected head of state and an unelected second Parliamentary chamber, we still preach to other countries about the merits of democracy without the slightest blush!

Yes, I think the UK, like our US cousins, are a still a bit arrogant and still act as if we had an empire and are "the chosen ones".

Hobbo made the valid point "...better a monarchy than a president or a dictator methinks".
I suppose the real problem, regardless of the monarchy, is the concentration of power in a few unnaccountable hands and the inevitable corruption that this brings.

11 Jan 2020 1:10PM
Were'nt the media demanding that the Royals modernise, slim down, etc etc. and now they are its "how dare they"?

Our media is vile, absolutely vile at the moment and its in the business of manufacturing outrage for profit. I think the trouble began with people viewing their news online rather than buying print media and that led to click baiting, which is big business. The public do need to take a good hard look at itself and ask itself what it wants from the media - do we want lies we can all comment and gossip on or do we want real, unfake news - or is real news just a bit too vanilla normally?

We have Australia burning, Trump trying to start world war 3, dark money in the Tory party - which is still sitting on a report about Russian interference yet the media are obsessed with Meghan and Harry - for what real reason?

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Duplicity?

Take Piers Morgan, before the wedding he was gushing about what a great person she was but now his obsession is turning in harrassment??
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Serial killers get less column inches.

thewilliam2 2 1.3k
11 Jan 2020 1:35PM

Quote:
Our media is vile, absolutely vile at the moment and its in the business of manufacturing outrage for profit. I think the trouble began with people viewing their news online rather than buying print media and that led to click baiting, which is big business. The public do need to take a good hard look at itself and ask itself what it wants from the media - do we want lies we can all comment and gossip on or do we want real, unfake news - or is real news just a bit too vanilla normally?

We have Australia burning, Trump trying to start world war 3, dark money in the Tory party - which is still sitting on a report about Russian interference yet the media are obsessed with Meghan and Harry - for what real reason?



Might this be designed to distract a gullible public from the real issues of the day?

At the very least, it provides "content" for the papers until the process of dumbing down the state education system has been completed. Orwell predicted as much in 1984.
Jestertheclown 11 8.0k 252 England
11 Jan 2020 1:46PM

Quote:I think the trouble began with people viewing their news online rather than buying print media

I'd agree with that.

Our media, as in so-called newspapers, is no longer any better, in terms of accuracy or reliability than the dross that gets churned out incessantly on the likes of Bookface and its cohorts.

Unfortunately, a very large proportion of the population, thrive on said dross, even believing that what they're reading is factual and correct.

I can't help thinking that the news media had to lower their standards to those dismally low levels, simply to retain, never mind attract, readers.
11 Jan 2020 4:15PM

Quote:Might this be designed to distract a gullible public from the real issues of the day?
Possibly one reason but people behind the papers often have their own agenda rather than reporting real issues, and honestly.

Manipulation of what's reported is also being used. A lot of tabloids with an online presence will pick up a trend from social media and 'report' on it, but that trend can often come from sources detrimental to our democracy.




11 Jan 2020 6:04PM
I think this sums it up Taking on the Corporate Press and why the right-wing Daily Mail has gone full throttle, clue being towards the end of the article.
saltireblue Plus
9 10.1k 45 Norway
11 Jan 2020 6:19PM

Quote:I think this sums it up Taking on the Corporate Press and why the right-wing Daily Mail has gone full throttle, clue being towards the end of the article.

An interesting article...
I wonder how much the Sussexes lawsuit against The Mail on Sunday's parent company has to do with the recent vilification of them in the press? A "How dare they! We'll show them", response, perhaps?

As one reporter put it at the time (October); "Nobody can predict the path it will take or the damage it may cause.

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