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UserRemoved 17 4.2k
6 Sep 2005 5:48AM
A lot of images I sell through stock are editorial and would not be obtainable by ordinary members of the public so it doesnt really affect me much.

That is until some chancer cons their way into press areas or press pass or gets into areas they shouldnt for 'kudos' value. Just look at the number of threads on here which illustrate that.

Of course having said that if you seriously believe that microstock sites help professional photographers then you are seriously mistaken.
Saying that because photos are cheap people will buy more is absurd. If you need 3 photos for a website, you will buy three photos, regardless of where you can source them. If your budget will stretch to one you will buy one. Its all about budgets.
I took a phone call recently about some stock images required for a website. They gave me a 10 specific shot list they wanted and I quoted them a price. There was stunned silence.
Apparently I didnt understand, they wanted photos similar to ones they had seen on a microstock site and wanted to pay microstock prices. I asked them if the photos they required were on the microstock site and they said no so I said that that pricing didnt apply.
They werent happy and couldnt understand why I wouldnt go out and shoot 10 shots for them for 30.

Thats the damage microstock sites are doing.

I agree with Barrie - its all vanity and people taking advantage.

Personally I'm going to upgrade my web hosting and start a microstock site myself. Its the only way to make money from microstock.
User_Removed 19 7.3k 6 United Kingdom
6 Sep 2005 5:52AM
Now there's an idea.

Anyone want to go into the Microstock business with me?
User_Removed 17 3.3k Russian Federation
6 Sep 2005 5:54AM
Damn right - I've got gigs of cr*p to get rid of!
I'm just waiting for our web-server guy to get back from his lunch... I'll find out the most painless way of doing it and get right on it... ;o)
UserRemoved 17 4.2k
6 Sep 2005 5:56AM
Oi I thought of it first.

In fact I've a lovely shot of a bus footwell taken at 1am on Saturday night - even got my trainers in it.

Wonder would it sell?


PS Barrie - you dont sell any of your own photos - just advertise on EPZ - you will be inundated!
User_Removed 17 3.3k Russian Federation
6 Sep 2005 5:57AM
That was this weekend then Joe? :op
covey 16 1.7k Ireland
6 Sep 2005 6:02AM
I always wondered why EPZ didn't offer this?

T.
UserRemoved 17 4.2k
6 Sep 2005 6:02AM
How'd you guess?

Ive one of a gravel path and one of kerbstones as well if required.
keithh 17 25.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
6 Sep 2005 6:04AM
Those up-skirt bridesmaid ones will sell, Joe
UserRemoved 17 4.2k
6 Sep 2005 6:14AM
Well they do look fabulous A1 and framed Keith!
Pete 20 18.8k 97 England
6 Sep 2005 6:18AM
It's good that we now have a comment option in the news section so this sort of debate can also occur under the relevant stories.
csurry 19 9.2k 92
6 Sep 2005 6:28AM
Not fair Pete, Barrie posted there first and waited a whole 7 minutes for replies Wink)
chrisfroud 16 521
6 Sep 2005 6:33AM
What a load of c**p! Surely nobody buys this junk no matter how cheap it is?? I like the way they're advertising a 0.4mb jpeg picture as suitable for printing at ... 32 x 24 INCHES! That's gonna look well classy Wink

Chris.
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
6 Sep 2005 6:45AM
Sorry Barry, technological changes have now changed photography forever. As you said, anybody with a 6mp camera can become a stock photographer. What you are seeing is the free market evolution in action. Shoddy marketing tactics aside, your marketplace is indeed being destroyed, just as the marketplace for horse-driven carriages was destroyed a century ago.

I'm a computer programmer, I have to constantly learn new languages because the old ones get automated by 'program generators' or go extinct. It is now common for 'programmers' right out of college to use one of these program generators to produce (as the brochures say) 'professional database programs in hours!'

I've learned to adapt by focusing on areas that are too complex to be affected by marketplace changes. I suggest you do the same, or you and your considerable talent will go extinct.

Patrick
andytvcams 18 10.4k 1 United Kingdom
6 Sep 2005 6:48AM
Barrie the dinosaur Wink
GlennH 16 1.9k 1 France
6 Sep 2005 7:32AM
There are many specialist publications that are unlikely to turn to microstock, simply because they wouldn't find the vast majority of the pictures they want there.

I find it a shame, as much as anything else, that people are so vain that they're willing to undermine professional photography because of it. Microstock websites are full of people in communities comparing notes on the amount of times their pictures have been downloaded (for a pittance). A sad state of affairs.

Most of the satisfaction I've derived from stock photography (albeit as a mere amateur) has been had from trying to do things properly. Being published alongside names that I once revered, and still respect. Meeting some of them, and appearing in the same exhibitions as them. For anyone with an iota of dedication, there is no need to do things at the expense of others, and much to be gained from competing on level terms.

I personally would much rather do a few hours overtime in my day job than make money from photography purely for the sake of it, or for a bit of (false) kudos.

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