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RayBeck Avatar
RayBeck 18 43 United Kingdom
14 Nov 2019 8:21AM
The new YouTube layout is supposed to make it easier to show that you are not interested in a recommended channel. Well it isn't easier and as you say you are not interested so more recommendations are added. It would take hours to delete all of these which are not suitable. I am English to why do I get Japanese language suggestions. I know they have to make money but this is a really awful change and another con.
Rant over; tell me I am a curmudgeon but this is what I feel.
Tianshi_angie Avatar
14 Nov 2019 12:19PM
I haven't yet looked at it but it is now owned by Google and personally I try to avoid as much stuff that is owned by Google as possible. All these big tech companies are trying to obtain as much personal info on individuals as they can so that they can make more money. And the more they gain the more that those who are not tech savvy get scammed. 'Fraid I won't be stopping my rant as I feel it endangers so many people and usually the most vulnerable.
Chris_L Avatar
Chris_L 9 5.5k United Kingdom
14 Nov 2019 2:03PM

Quote:All these big tech companies are trying to obtain as much personal info on individuals as they can so that they can make more money. And the more they gain the more that those who are not tech savvy get scammed

I agree with "All these big tech companies are trying to obtain as much personal info on individuals as they can so that they can make more money" but what do you base your claim "the more they gain the more that those who are not tech savvy get scammed" on?

You go on YouTube to watch videos and you don't pay a subscription who do you think is going to pay for the videos to be stored and streamed to you? Or any free website you use? Even this one has adverts and tracking cookies etc.

There's a reason they store personal information on you.

They might 'know' whether you are a middle-aged woman, who lives in Scotland, enjoys photography and crochet, owns a Sony phone and a Nikon camera or you're a 20 year old lad with a Canon DSLR and you live in London, your favourite game is Fortnite for Xbox.

A businesses in Edinburgh who makes crochet stuff would prefer to only pay for adverts seen by the first person described. The Game shop on the Tottenham Court Road doesn't want to waste their money, or web user's time advertising to someone who is less likely to buy from them.

Personalised advertising is a bit creepy, I grant you that. It's not a scam though, who is getting 'scammed' and how?
DaveRyder Avatar
DaveRyder Plus
9 7.4k 23 United Kingdom
14 Nov 2019 2:36PM
It's not that different to when we bought news papers and magazine.

Advertisers would place their information in relevant press areas at a targeted audience.
Same with TV, adverts in specific programs to again, a target audience.

It's all really just variations on a theme.

I've just had to turn my ad blocker off for the Daily Mail web site.
I'm sure ad blockers will be tested for by more organisations.

Or to put it more concisely - What Chris said.
Railcam Avatar
Railcam 17 967 2 Scotland
14 Nov 2019 2:54PM
During the day, kids are at school, most working age people are working leaving mostly retired people watching day time TV. Hence the reason day time TV carries adverts for funeral plans and oldies life insurance. You don't have to buy them.
I am an oldie that does not watch datime TV. Does that mean I've beaten them Grin
Tianshi_angie Avatar
14 Nov 2019 5:34PM
Chris L - the scammers hack into databases or even buy information. I do occasionally watch daytime TV and it is always the folk who browse without due care, who buy without due care, and are not 'tech savvy' who get scammed. 1,000s of pounds are stolen from them and they have, so far, no recourse to have their money returned. When I had a land-line I had a phone call purporting to come from HMRC saying I owed them money. I phoned the police and gave them the numbers which I was given to phone. The scammers are obtaining their information from databases built up from the images posted on Facebook, comments made on Twitter, etc. Yes in many ways it is the folk who are negligent who are to blame but there but for a bit of luck go I and you. I am unable to watch Channel 4 catch up as I have an ad blocker in place, they therefore will not give me access. I don't pretend to know the answers but until someone who is a lot more knowledgeable than me comes up with an answer I keep as much information as I can as 'my knowledge' only.
Chris_L Avatar
Chris_L 9 5.5k United Kingdom
15 Nov 2019 1:32AM
Scammers will scam gullible people.

It's not a good reason for you to avoid Google sites like YouTube.

If someone steals your ID and starts buying gaming add-ons at the Google Play store it may be that Google stops the transaction or asks for more credentials because you are suddenly behaving like a 16 -year old boy rather than your usual self. It's the data breaches at the likes of Equifax and Bupa that I'm more worried about.

Tianshi_angie Avatar
15 Nov 2019 9:06AM
I don't avoid YouTube Chris - I was just trying to point out to people that there is a reason for the tech companies trying to get info on individuals hence the changes that they make, and that it was not as harmless as it at first appears. I don't 'join' anything and rarely 'open an account'. Hopefully this means that there is less info. and less cause for concern, although I am not naive enough to think I live behind a firewall. But as I get older I am aware that fellow oldies are very vulnerable, no matter how much you think that you are on top of things age does deteriorate the little grey cells.


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