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book shop - another try

By Herrero
Hi! This is my second try at the book shop, following some of your suggestions. Still don't know how to deal with the large picture which is too bright.
What do you think? Thank you sooooo much for all your advice on the first version!

Tags: General Landscape and travel

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ErictheViking 5 124 102 Scotland
6 Feb 2013 11:10PM
Hi Renee

I've looked at your first image and this is a much improved image, I really like the sharpness and the detail you have both in the window and the outside.

You ask about the large picture in the window it appears to be over exposed from the window light, I have tried to darken this area using a editor but there is no detail in the white so not much can be done in this picture. Its likely caused by the angle you chose and possibly moving your position slightly more away from the shop could help to reduce the glare which has caused the over-exposure and if you want to go back and try some more shots I'd suggest experimenting with some different angles to get the detail your looking for.

Something else to try is to reduce the aperture slightly f/3.2 or f/4 and allow the exposure to be longer, however this could introduce more noise and that could affect the overall look of the final image.

Overall a great improvement, well done. Grin

Eric Grin

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paulbroad 10 123 1244 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2013 7:28PM
The only way to deal with this is two frames off the tripod. One exposed much as this and the other just for that picture. You then select the correctly exposed picture, copy, then paste it over the over exposed one. Careful selection and you wont see the join.

pamelajean Plus
12 1.1k 2016 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2013 8:09PM
Firstly, Renee, I prefer the angle of your shot in this one. You have nice perspective, more of a sense of depth, and have included those attractive pavement stones. You have done well and this is really beginning to look good.
You have left your shutter open for less time, and this has given you some light on the shop's facade, which looks much better, whereas it was just mostly black before.
The shorter shutter speed has not, however, had much effect on the glare and overexposure in the windows. I feel this is mainly due to the strength of the spotlights that are being used by the shop, and probably the only way to deal with this is to do as Paul suggests. You could try using some negative exposure compensation, but I think, in the end, you are going to have trouble dealing with it.
The large picture which you rightly say is too bright, has a spotlight directly above it, and of course the picture has glass in it, and the glass is picking up all of that light.
I see that you reduced your ISO, too, so you did everything right.
Maybe this is one of those night shots that doesn't need a long exposure for the lights, but does need it to have detail in the shop facade, so you have set yourself quite a challenge and I think that unless you are prepared to go to the trouble of combining differently exposed shots, this may be the best you can get.
There is always a lot of trial and error involved in night shots, changing your settings until you get what you want. How long your exposure will be depends on what you're photographing. If the light, such as street lamps, is your focus you'll have a much shorter exposure than if you were photographing an illuminated building. Often night photography has huge areas of the scene in darkness with occasional illuminated areas, and the camera's exposure meter isn't used to such scenes and may need some manual help.
Herrero 5 24 Germany
8 Feb 2013 12:59PM
Hi Eric,

Thank you so much Smile Smile Smile Nice feeling Smile

Regarding sharpness, I also played a bit with an editing programme, and curiously enough, feel a little like I'm cheating when using it !!!

Regards, Renée
Herrero 5 24 Germany
8 Feb 2013 1:00PM
Hi Paul,

Thank you for this idea, had really not thought of it.

Regards, Renée
Herrero 5 24 Germany
8 Feb 2013 1:03PM
Hi Pamena,

Once more, thank you so much for your extensive comments Smile

Yes, the book shop might well stay as it is now, I am happy Smile and have learned a lot Smile Smile Smile

Regards, Renée
ErictheViking 5 124 102 Scotland
8 Feb 2013 2:01PM
Hi Renee
Never feel guilty when creating your image as Ansel Adams says "An image is not taken it is created" and photographers have been creating images from taken pictures since the first photograph was taken.

Eric Grin
Herrero 5 24 Germany
8 Feb 2013 2:21PM
Hi Eric!

Thank you! It's great to see it from that perspective Smile

Regards, Renée

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