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A New Rose

By ctxuk  
Just a thank you to the team for their interaction with myself recently over produced images and lens. Nikon 300mm f4 and Tokina 745

From it I have discovered auto wb for myself just does not do the job with colour rendition which wanders dependant on light available

Selection shot today using 2 lens, a Mennon Cap custom wb and various combinations of Sunlight wb, Shade wb and differing metering modes also. I found the colour rendition worked for myself.
Also changed to Screen Capture Type - Landscape from initial - Standard

So, just a thank you, not really looking for anything but a selection of images shot today, which I am sure if you see any major issues about you will say.

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banehawi Plus
17 2.7k 4282 Canada
23 Jul 2021 1:48PM
Looks good on my tablet, I can take a closer look later. But good exposure and colour from here.
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
23 Jul 2021 1:59PM
Thank you, they look right to myself also. Nettles etc no longer have that yellowness to them, and no blue caste in any either.

Had clean mirror due focus issues and marks by flipping it closed, that's sorted now. Awaiting swabs arriving.
dudler Plus
18 1.8k 1895 England
23 Jul 2021 5:44PM
Some nice differential focus in 5, but both 7 and 8 look unsatisfying to me. It's not the white balance, though - it's the tonal range - both need a Levels correction. Unfortunately, I can't download any except the lead image.

Nice light, a good composition, and a reasonable subject will always matter more in terms of getting a satisfying image than precision of WB, or, within limits, exposure and sharpness.
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
23 Jul 2021 6:41PM
Thank you.
I checked both files and comments are on mods uploaded now. No changes to previous processing except on first imaged I removed sensor crud marks that I was lax to not do originally.
dudler Plus
18 1.8k 1895 England
24 Jul 2021 11:53AM
Thanks for the modifications.

I see some haze in those shots: that's a function of the light and weather, and the only real solution is to shoot on a day (or at a time) when it's not there. There's a dehaze tool in Photoshop, but when I applied it to this shot, it gave awful banding in the sky, and brought out the dustbunnies - so I pushed the slider all the way across to make the problems really obvious.

Then I tried a different approach, using the detail extractor in Nik Efex.

And in both cases, I used a slight clockwise rotation (it seems more natural to me) and, crucially, a Levels adjustment to deepen the midtones. There's more to a picture looking right than black and white points set carefully. You may not feel it's more natural-looking like this, which is fine - my perception is that it's an improvement.
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.1k 2476 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2021 1:39PM
I won't repeat the comments that I have made in the past. But I have added a mod (number 3), going in closer, cropped, flipped to correspond with our intuitive direction of gaze, trying to create an image that a viewer can relate to.
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
24 Jul 2021 3:23PM

The jpeg produced the banding with dehaze, the raw file does not do it so badly. Mod 6 to extreme as yours
Mod 7 how I processed to emulate but subjectively. Notes on them.
Mod 8 Sensor crud - f22 defocussed pointed at sky and correct exposure. The velvet in cavity has disintegrated one side and I think the cause of this.
Mod 9 After 3 swabs sensor cleaned. The Auto clean on the D700 at start up and turn off though pulling fresh bits on despite hoovering cavity with car vac crevice tool.
As I would process today, only two small marks from sensor dirt although sensor has always had a scratch on it, bought used and unaware.

Literally done as a thank you to the team for the interaction only. The images are all full frame to demonstrate results of that interaction.
I know you want artistic but it was not for that reason.
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.1k 2476 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2021 5:44PM

Quote:The images are all full frame to demonstrate results of that interaction.
I know you want artistic but it was not for that reason.

I'm just trying to demonstrate the possibilities if you think about photography as a means of communication. Without that it seems to me a sterile exercise.
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
24 Jul 2021 10:29PM

Quote:Without that it seems to me a sterile exercise.

Only if you view it as photography for a consumer end result.
Going back to my print background, when you set a multicolour Litho press up (CMYK + Spot Colour (and a varnish often)) you do so to a point comparing to a Chromalin (some proof type), or photo's before getting a 'Pass Sheet' approved by either a customer or someone in a position in the factory who oversees and approves colour before you run it. The pass sheet gets signed off and throughout the run you refer to it in comparison to the latest sheet taken out of the delivery. For myself in photography the scene captured is the pass sheet in effect and the results I have been getting I compare to it, its a known quantity. The only thing changing is the light over time of day, intensity etc.
I have viewed the previous results, unhappy with blue castes, nettles too yellow by far and more importantly no consistency to it for some reason, that will make me lose interest as the results to me are not right, repeatable or controllable. Until the things are right, why get artistic? Why shoot for a consumer if you yourself are not happy with your endeavours?
There are still things wrong with the camera physically also, but I count myself fortunate it is working really at all, and better than before I started out messing around with it for the exercise, prompted by banehawi's comments on the Fuji results.
I am at a place now where I will think more about the artistic or pleasant results side when out and about (subject to covid measures, still wonder when the next lockdown for that starts after it/them stopping the population work in many instances). Ability to travel means places can be visited now and a return to looking directly at what I would like to photograph.
Full frame sensor shots with no crops reveal any issues, I crop chunks out/off then it could be something gets missed.

This particular thread really was me saying, thank you team for your input, expertise and straight forward approach saying what you see, what can improve technically and frankly what is wrong with the previous ones ... and I really do appreciate all the input, your own included. Just because I have yet to submit something of a more pleasing or artistic nature does not say I have ignored your thoughts there.

And to cap it all, I even cleaned a sensor for the first time. Still learning. Wink
dudler Plus
18 1.8k 1895 England
25 Jul 2021 5:57PM
Thank you for the thank you!

I think our combined plea to you is to enjoy what is, and not chase perfection. There's a risk of painting yourself into a corner so that enjoyable, creative results are never possible, because you never achieve the technical excellence you seek.

Great artists sketch with charcoal on poor paper when they can't afford oils and canvas. I feel they set an example for the rest of us...
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
25 Jul 2021 8:51PM
I did a sketch ... perhaps, it is up there.

It's easy to forget to say thank you, or even glibly say it at the time more interested in ourselves than in what others offer. I just figured rather than leave the previous posts in critique, to come back just for that reason.

As for creative, you decide if there is even a spark of it in what I put up.
Enjoy what remains of the weekend.

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