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A walk in the country

By DRicherby
Two versions of the same shot, taken on a walk earlier in the week. I'm not a fan of posting colour and black and white versions of the same shot but, in this case, I can't decide which I prefer. The crop's a little tighter on the black and white, which I think works better but not by enough that I wanted to go back and re-edit the colour version. Smile

I've added a third version, which is the same as the first but with the mole hills cloned out because they look like cow pats!

I'd like to hear your opinion all comments and criticism welcome.

Dave.

Tuesday, 16th February, 2010.
21mm, f/11, 1/160s, ISO-200.

Tags: Landscape and travel

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Comments


fraser 12 631 14 Scotland
18 Feb 2010 12:47PM
I prefer the colour version myself - it conveys the winter feeling better.
Fraser

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18 Feb 2010 1:05PM
I really cant decide myself
You shouldnt have put them up together
gary_d Plus
8 576 13 Wales
18 Feb 2010 1:10PM
I prefer the mono and it has been done very well. - gary
Ayelet_A 7 11 3 Israel
18 Feb 2010 1:58PM
Hi Dave!
Lovely composition -wonderful in b&w.

Ayelet Smile
Very good 2 love the mono.
Will
gingerdelight 10 298 11 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 2:41PM
A superb composition David, wonderful colours and tones in V2, however, the monotone is the winner for me!
Carol
18 Feb 2010 3:04PM
I love the mono, the light on the posts is so beautiful! Love the colour too but just not quite as much. Every little detail just pops out at you in the mono. Awesome composition too.........Sandy
blackbird 9 159 15 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 3:54PM
definately the b&w for me, you've brought out lots of detail in the grasses
riprap007 11 1.6k 37 England
18 Feb 2010 4:00PM
excellent mono conversion
18 Feb 2010 4:30PM
Very good mono would had liked to have seen it flipped so the fence is on the left I feel that this would lead your eye to the tree better.
Hope you do not mind my comment. John
EAS 7 1 13 Scotland
18 Feb 2010 5:18PM
Normally my vote goes to colour, but this time the mono seems to make a stronger image and I love the way everything leads the eye to that lovely tree, so V1 for me.

Ann
Amanita05 6 11 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 5:28PM
I Think I prefer the contrast in the mono David, But Love the colour version as well!
Super composition & Great Lighting!

Alan.
imagio 9 12 1 England
18 Feb 2010 5:32PM
V 1 as I like the range of tones, gives it more drama..

bernie
Lillian Plus
7 21 17 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 6:45PM
Great shot and the mono in V1 has it for me
has a nice mystery to it..and no, don't ask why?
Lillian
DRicherby 7 269 725 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 6:54PM
If I asked why, Lillian, it would ruin the mystery about why you feel it's mysterious! Grin

Thank you everyone for your generous clicks and comments. I'm a little surprised that the mono version is coming out so consistently on top but nonetheless pleased. Smile
RTDS 7 Cyprus
18 Feb 2010 7:31PM
Great capture.
Really like them both very much.
Robert
metro074 6 8 Australia
18 Feb 2010 9:38PM
Lovely images. I prefer V2 as in my opinion it seems to have more dof and the tones and contrast is super. Smile
Carol
borrower 6 4 England
18 Feb 2010 9:38PM
SUPER SET OF IMAGES, BUT V2 FOR ME, JUST LOOKS MORE DRAMATIC IN MONO, ALTHOUGH DO LIKE V1 TOO
LOUISE
Mynett 8 142 6 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 10:24PM
mono looks great


Linda
morpheus1955 9 3 2 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 10:27PM
Great shot for me it has to be V1.

Hugh
tigertimb 8 40 66 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2010 11:44PM
Excellent shot David, and definitely the mono for me, liking the extra contrast (everywhere except the cowpats) and bringing out so much detail in the grass.
Think I probably still prefer the composition from the colour version with the extra space on the left, and the mono maybe a touch too sharp in the fine detail of the trees with the white sparkly effect appearing
Tim
18 Feb 2010 11:51PM
Great shot, like the predominate light tones contrasted with the dark trees of V1, nice use of the frontal light. James
DRicherby 7 269 725 United Kingdom
19 Feb 2010 12:32AM
Thanks, Tim — I agree about the sharpening of the tree. Those `cow pats' are actually mole hills, which is why I didn't think to clone them out but, now you mention the resemblance, maybe I should do something about them...
Cor 7 Belgium
19 Feb 2010 8:34AM
Both very beautyful *****
cor
19 Feb 2010 1:27PM
absolutely V1 is SSSUPERB,David
19 Feb 2010 4:15PM
Beautiful scene, well picked out, work in both colour and mono,
fine work, Adrian
19 Feb 2010 5:06PM
Lovely shot, mono has lovely contrast but,the colour edges it for me.
Vince.
bliba Plus
10 2 Austria
19 Feb 2010 6:04PM
excellent....espacially the mono versions....great tones

oliver

thanks for your clicks and feedback Smile
20 Feb 2010 10:05AM
Definitely V3 for me.

RJ
teocali Plus
8 441 18 England
20 Feb 2010 2:30PM
Superb Dave - you really process into mono to perfection. Would have been V1, but since the "cowpat" comment it has to be V3. LOL
Wonderful atmosphere, light and comp.
Sylvia
20 Feb 2010 4:13PM
Great capture, works well in mono.
Christine
helenlinda Plus
9 343 22 United Kingdom
21 Feb 2010 11:27AM
Works best in mono for me too, although I usually like the added warmth of the colour.
Helen
Artangel 6 3 1 United Kingdom
22 Feb 2010 9:59AM
Sorry I missed this, normally a colour girl but V1 (minus mole hills) def for me. Very nice composition and light. Romney
FeatherFriend 8 38 217 England
22 Feb 2010 1:56PM
3 lovely versions here but I like the color version best Dave,
Geoff.
Bigtoe 7 7 United Kingdom
23 Feb 2010 1:16PM
I think the black and white is stronger, and this form also really suits tree silhouettes. Sans cowpat for me also. Cheers, Tony.
madbilly 7 1 4 England
23 Feb 2010 8:39PM
I like both colour and mono versions but I think in this case the mono wins for me, it appears to give more detail and mood. Personally I like the mole hills/ cow pats, it adds to the authenticity for me. Good depth of field too, nicely done.

regards

Bill
AnneWorner 8 620 43 United States
1 Mar 2010 6:54PM
It's not a "real" photo unless it has a sprinkling of what looks like cow patties!
That said, I prefer the mono over the colour for this one. I like the compo with the fence coming out from the corner, the path leading to the tree, and the placement of the tree within the frame.
Anne
xwang 7 55 8
10 Mar 2010 12:22AM
Excellent photo,I like the compoistion,prefer V1.
xiaoli
Animalsmagic 6 2 1 United Kingdom
25 Mar 2010 10:24PM
I like V3, the path is more defined leading you to the tree and the molehills ? are gone, the fence is a great lead in too, nicely composed too
Mark
11 Apr 2010 1:30PM
Could make a comment about preferring the cowpats but it's definitely the mono conversion anyway.
Paul1972 8 46
6 Oct 2010 8:50AM
I like number 3 in mono but also like the colour shot they both work.
Thanks for your critique and comments its very helpful and appreciated.
Paul
v2 the colour one works best for me. The balance of the composition and colours is just right...

But further to our conversation re: ethics... v3 and the missing mole hills falls in to this area. Cleaning up dust spots and hairs is one thing... but when we start removing things we don't like altogether....

Good pic though, I like it.
DRicherby 7 269 725 United Kingdom
24 Nov 2010 2:15PM
Thank you. Smile

I can certainly see your point about the molehills. In this case, I'm happy cloning them out because I don't think it fundamentally alters the character of the photograph and they're not a permanent feature of the scene: they just happened to be there on the day I photographed it.

In most cases, I'm not too concerned about an exact representation of the scene because my interest is more in conveying the atmosphere of a place and what it feels like to be there. In most cases, I'll not think twice about cloning out something that I could have physically removed from the scene before taking the photograph, such as a piece of litter or a visually prominent stick. Indeed, the reason such a thing would appear in my photograph is that I hadn't noticed it, which proves that it had no impact on what it felt like to be in the place. Smile On the other hand, I wouldn't clone out a hundred pieces of litter because that would impact on me while I was there.

Although I couldn't physically remove the mole-hills before taking the photograph, I don't think it's misleading to clone them out, as I explained above. Indeed, to play devil's advocate, it may even be misleading to leave them in because they gave people the incorrect impression that cows can be found on this land, whereas, in reality the farmer keeps only sheep in the fields to either side of the path. Wink On the other hand, I probably wouldn't try to clone out an ugly industrial chimney on the skyline, though doing so wouldn't, to my mind, be any more unethical than deliberately composing with the chimney out of the frame. (And whether that would be ethical depends on, among other things, what the photo is intended for.)

I think it would still be reasonable to take an even broader view, in this case. Although I have provided the map location, the title A walk in the country was quite deliberate and I didn't call it A walk on the path from Carlton Lane to Moor Top Farm. Obviously, that would be far too clunky but it's also because my aim wasn't so much to portray that particular location but the English countryside in general. Not making strong and specific claims about what the photo represents does, I think, give more license for manipulation while remaining ethical.
Beladd 6 7 Ireland
30 Jan 2011 1:47AM
Hi Dave I would not worry to much about Cow drops/ mole hills, it all adds to the picture but I did think that big white cloud in no mans land to the right was a distraction that leads the eye to quickly out of the shot , when the focus should be on gentle lead in down the track way. I would crop just right of the post and use that post as a frame leaning into the shot, or maybe tone down the brightness of the white cloud. Nice mono version with light and shade on tree, track & Posts.

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