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Another London pic!

By AndyPedant
Following the really useful comments given to my previous London pic, here's another I took on the same night, but using a shorter exposure and more open aperture. I wanted to get the whole of the Houses of Parliament in the shot, but the Big Ben tower was covered in scaffolding and sheets, therefore a non-starter.

Tags: Long exposure Landscape and travel Night and low light

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banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4176 Canada
26 Sep 2020 2:45PM
This is a lot better Andy. The lights especially are improved, and overall definition is also improved.


I uploaded a mod of this with very little done in fact, just a little sharpening, and a very slight reduction in saturation. To see the mod, click the Modifications box under the image.

How you see the image, colour and saturation will also depend on the medium you use to view it; tablet, phone, laptop and a good monitor will likely display differently.

As before, try to shoot in Aperture priority, set it to say f/11, and let the camera choose shutter speed with ISO set to 200. The noise performance will be better, and you can adjust exposures after shooting using the exposure compensation dial


Regards


Willie
sawsengee Plus
14 6 36 Malaysia
26 Sep 2020 4:11PM
Hi Andy, a very much improved attempt but I have reservations with Fuji cameras. I need other members to correct me if I am wrong,.......it looks like your camera Fujifilm X-T1 might be having the same sensor problem as Fujifilm X10 which has the "ORBS" problems of light bulbs illumination captured on the camera sensor, here is a link to Fujifilm X10 problems:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3340468423/fujifilm-x10-orbs-investigated-does-the-firmware-fix-work

Also, your Fujifilm X-T1 may also suffer from "Light Streak Problem" with long exposure which is evident from the light streaks flooding the right hand top side of your picture. Here is a link to the problem and how to fix it:

https://www.reviewed.com/cameras/features/how-to-solve-the-fujifilm-x-t1-light-leak-problem

Best wishes, ee Smile
Saastad Plus
1 16 15 Norway
26 Sep 2020 4:17PM
I very much agree with Willie here. Much better. But I think I would have avoided the building to the right. I think it has a bit to bright lights, and take to much attention from the colourful and nice buildings in the background.

Arne
chase Plus
15 1.9k 481 England
26 Sep 2020 4:28PM
Hi Andy,\I didn't comment on your previous image as all had been said with some really good advice, there was nothing for me to add that would have been a benefit to you.

This is a much better image, colours are better and you have avoided the splats of very bright light.
It's the noise that strikes me here, Willie has offered some great advice there.
I did try a mod, just to reduce that noise in the sky on this particular image, I did it on a separate layer, then only applied it where it needed to be.
I cloned out the little light right at the bottom with the clone tool set to 'darken' and applied the same technique to the red triangle top right.
Just be careful of lighter halos around the edges of the buildings, I attacked those with the clone tool too.
HTH
Janet
dudler Plus
17 1.4k 1739 England
26 Sep 2020 5:02PM
The noise issue interests me, in terms of wondering if some of the noise is the result of exposure and/or processing that has emphasised it. Incorrect exposure is very easy to achieve with night pictures, especially in manual mode - one tends to go for a dark-looking image, rather than a lighter one which you then darken in processing - but that seems to be a better way to get there. Underexposure emphasises noise, and while the XT-1 is a notably good camera overall, it's now quite an old design.

I wasn't aware of any particular issues - and I suggest you don't panic unless they actually show in your pictures when you've optimised everything!
26 Sep 2020 8:38PM
Wow! This was a lot of reading and thinking to accommodate, so huge thanks to all of you who commented. I do think EE may have a point about the orbs (I own an X10 as well as an XT-10 and XT-1) and it's something I'll investigate further.
As regards the light entering via the USB port, I think this is unlikely as I was using the self-timer and the port hatch was closed.

I can see there's a fair bit of noise still evident - I tried reducing it in the first place, but I hadn't thought of doing it via an added layer as Janet suggests, so I'll give it a go.

As a newcomer to this site, I must say how overwhelmed I am with the responses I've received - without exception they have been detailed, useful and informative - so much different from my current FaceBook group where all I get is a "Like" (or not!).

Huge thanks,
Andy
dudler Plus
17 1.4k 1739 England
26 Sep 2020 9:35PM
How sure are you about the original exposure - and do you shoot RAW as a matter of course?

It's also worth mentioning that aggressive sharpening brings out the noise a treat.
chase Plus
15 1.9k 481 England
26 Sep 2020 10:29PM

Quote:How sure are you about the original exposure - and do you shoot RAW as a matter of course?

It's also worth mentioning that aggressive sharpening brings out the noise a treat.


...and the lighter halos Sad
dark_lord Plus
16 2.7k 710 England
26 Sep 2020 10:36PM
This is better though a lot of the technical stuff still applies.
I appreciate you didn't have full control of when to be there, and many of us find ourselves with that dilemma at some point.

You can in a RAW converter as well as in Photoshop or Affinity (I guess other software too) adjust the Shadows slider to bring out detail in the darker areas as Willie has done in his mod where the bg difference is in the trees. Don't go too far as you'll start to see noise, though it's surprising what just a smal tweak can reveal.

You'll still get 'nice pic' comments on here too in the main gallery as many will feel they're rocking the boat and want reciprocal commemnts (even if you specifically ask for help) but the Critique Gallery is where you will get the feedbak and sugestions for processing and technique. I was going to say 'improvement' but equally it can be just an alternative approach.
Robert51 12 7 108 United Kingdom
27 Sep 2020 8:38AM
On a lighter note I would like to say thank you for the reminder. I was born and grew up right here. Just behind the trees on the right. The bridge just in case you want to know is Lambeth bridge. Just over the bridge on the left is the famous Lambeth Walk which was a street market.
Once again thank you for taking me back...
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.4k 2290 United Kingdom
27 Sep 2020 8:43AM
I'm late here. This is better than the previous upload, and it's down to more sensible settings. Earlier in the evening would give better results, and allow for better settings, as previously mentioned.

One thing I didn't mention on the previous upload - I'm not a fan of the starburst effect, it's reminiscent of far too many twee Christmas cards. And the quality of starbursts will suffer from both increased ISO and very long exposure. The red lights are more satisfying here, being more discreet.
Moira

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