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By jadus      
Thank you very much for your comments on Willie Bamford. When he saw the photo he said he did not know he was so good looking!

i took this photo in utter frustration. I was in a public place taking photos when i was asked by a warden to delete some of the photos i had taken because they had kids in them. I pointed the camera at the cctv camera thinking it might not object to me pointing my lens at its lens!


Tags: Black and white Specialist and abstract Cctv cameras Pigeon guard

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7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 9:10AM
The worlds going mad...

But I can understand the reasoning behind the wardens request in days where the blight of the abused and the abusers is rife.

Regards Nathan GrinGrinGrin

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CanonMan Plus
16 524 4 England
6 Aug 2014 9:16AM
Like the graphic nature of this shot. I may have been tempted to clone out the blurred bit towards top right if it were my shot.

In a public place, assuming it is definitely a public place, you can take photographs of what you want in the UK and no-one can force you to delete them - not even the police, let alone a warden. Sometimes easier just to go along with them though - depends whether or not you want to be belligerent or make a fuss. Images can always be recovered from cards after being deleted using software like recuva.
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1851 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 9:16AM
I like it as an abstract, although I wish you hadn't clipped the top. It does work as an abstract - I didn't recognise the subject and spent a while trying to sort out a sense of scale and direction before I read anything..
'... in a public place...' An adopted road? Or a place like a shopping mall, park or bus station where the public is allowed access under certain conditions?
If the former, you have the right to take pictures, full stop. I work on the basis that I may well appear in other people's snaps so why shouldn't they be in mine? But if taking close-ups with children, it's always worth checking with parents, it's only polite.
If the latter, they can make their own rules up, as you can in your own home.
But either way the warden had no right to make you delete photographs, that requires a court order.
jadus Plus
6 1.2k 3 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 9:23AM
Like the graphic nature of this shot. I may have been tempted to clone out the blurred bit towards top right if it were my shot.............i had wondered whether to do that.

moira - i had not noticed that clipping of the edge..................sausages!
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1851 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 9:27AM
PS CanonMan has mentioned recuva, it's a free download and will retrieve deleted images even after the card has been reformatted.
Most of my photography is for the Town Council and local voluntary groups, at community events, with loads of children. I tend to check with parents immediately after taking a shot, rather than risk the children being told 'Turn round and smile at the camera'. In all the years I have been doing this only two Mums have ever refused, and they were very polite. The local police are great too, including the PCSOs. The problem is usually the minor cog trying to sound important. At our recent Town Fair a steward insisted that anyone taking photographs had to wear a hi-vis vest, 'So that parents will know you are OK'. So my 2.99 vest, from a market stall, magically transforms me from a dangerous pervert into a sound pillar of society!
6 Aug 2014 9:30AM
I've not encountered this myself yet but it wouldn't surprise me - especially as I'm a bloke.
I bitterly resent the fact that, due to a few weirdos, it casts suspicion on everyone.

Good picture!
jadus Plus
6 1.2k 3 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 9:34AM
I shall look up recuva.
When I am taking photos in my community I am well known and so people have no problems with it, in fact they love the work i make.

The example named above was in a local city. The irony of it was i asked the kids (early teens) concerned before i hit the button and then showed them what i had taken. When they themsleves came to ask me if i would delete them and i did so in front of them. The issue was the parents who spoke with the warden. The warden was lovely about the whole thing, especially when i pointed out the plethora of cctv in situ.
i have a high viz jacket, i'll adopt that tactic!! I bought it to wear whilst taking photos on the roadside, but if it means i become a 'safe' member of society I'll wear it ad nauseum Grin
jadus Plus
6 1.2k 3 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 9:36AM
Believe me Peter you no longer have to be a bloke to be considered a paedo!!
6 Aug 2014 10:52AM
What a carry on.

A pity you cocked up the photograph, but even so it's still good.
jadus Plus
6 1.2k 3 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 11:02AM
I shall go back and do it again and not **** it up this time Grin
alansnap Plus
14 577 26 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 11:30AM
Glad you took this. Taking photographs of children in a public place is legal. Some disturbed individuals take photos of children in inappropriate ways showing abuse or sexual content. That is illegal, and frankly appalling, but taking photos with children in them undertaking normal activity is not. The logic seems to be "paedophiles take pictures to illustrate their perversion, therefore anyone taking photos of children is a paedophile." Pure bonkers, and we have to get that message out or our life will become impossible.
End of supportive rant,
Nikonuser1 Plus
5 149 16 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 1:26PM
A jobs worth by the looks of it Jade, Like the imageSmile

SlowSong Plus
9 7.2k 30 England
6 Aug 2014 4:50PM
Nice one Jade. V2 because it's clean. This could be in a "Guess what it is competition" as I'm sure none of us would have a clue what it was.
capto Plus
5 4.9k 8 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2014 6:50PM
A good graphic composition.Smile

Nigeve1 Plus
4 1.4k 101 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2014 6:57AM
Good abstract image, V2 a definite improvement.

Set your camera so that it writes an image to both cards, then if you delete one, you still have the other backup, saves any arguments, given you have done nothing wrong.

Chinga Plus
7 3 1 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2014 11:37AM
A fantastic metalic... Well seen. V2 for me.

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