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At Rest

By DPhillips
Fishing vessels docked in Hout Bay

1/320 f20 55mm

Tags: General Landscape and travel

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paulbroad 9 116 1064 United Kingdom
9 Jan 2011 10:50AM
Perfectly adequate. The problem with such images is that they usually look better to the eye than the camera. You have gone for f20 for some reason, which means huge depth of field and the jumble of masts etc. become more confusing because they are all in focus.

better to pick a closer object and make it the subject, shooting at f4 or 5.6 to get some blur into the background. Digital gives huge depth of field which can be a compositional nightmare.

DPhillips 6 20 South Africa
9 Jan 2011 2:49PM
Focus_Man....I lined these ships this way to step their bows. I think maybe I could have moved a little more LEFT. I wanted the photo to show them lined up to one another.

paulbroad...thanks for your comments. I don't know why I used f20 but know better now. I changed this image to B & W and load it now for your comments please.
roxpix 12 2.2k 11 Scotland
9 Jan 2011 3:36PM
Iím no expert but I think the advice for that shot was pretty good

To me your desired step effect of the bows is overshadowed due to the busy & cluttered background, so where the viewers eye should be looking at your step/triangles its actually drawn to the collection of masts, buildings and hillside

To me the first piece of advice is suggesting that there may have been a more effective background had you moved to the right

If your determined to keep this angle of view then you need to consider (when taking the shot) what youíll do to the background to correct it in post processing or camera settings as suggested in the 2nd post
banehawi Plus
12 1.5k 3531 Canada
9 Jan 2011 3:43PM
I see that there was a good shot here if you were lower to focus on the bows lined up, - an alternate approach to what Frank suggested.

First off, - its a little underexposed, and the boast look better a tad brighter.
Ive cropped to show what a focus on the bows only would look like, in the mod - its rather a panoramic format, but its meant to convey the idea.

The very small aperture wasnt necessary at 55mm, - f.8 would have been adequate, and may have produced both a sharper shot, and provided a little out of focus in the distance.

Theres a very good read on dof, - and you can enter your own camera and lens combo to see dof measurements, using the online dof tool at

I hope you fins this helpful, - and Ive just noticed your comment above which sounds like its i line with whats Im suggesting.


DPhillips 6 20 South Africa
9 Jan 2011 5:11PM
Willie thank you . The advice is what I appreciate
DPhillips 6 20 South Africa
10 Jan 2011 2:53PM
Thank you Roxpix and Willie. Why didn't I get positive feedback like this before!!! LOL
fudgy 6 48 United Kingdom
10 Jan 2011 3:05PM
hiya dorian

well I am not here to offer any advice because as you know I am very much a beginner ...

but I like both the boat pics , and was going to say I prefer the colour , but I really like the b + w the more I look at it.

your doing fab

DPhillips 6 20 South Africa
10 Jan 2011 3:27PM
Thanks les
col.campbell 13 1.0k 4 United Kingdom
15 Feb 2011 1:18AM
The nearest boat appears quite dark, as it is shaded from strong sunlight; there's a strong contrast there and a blue colour cast. While this is a true record of what you saw, you can try using flash to illuminate people or objects in deep shadow.
DPhillips 6 20 South Africa
16 Feb 2011 5:01PM
The ship's colour is Black. tell me how to change its colour to make it lighter. No artificial lights can change that? Sad

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