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Autumn Water Fall

By andrewrallye  
I have tried a little HDR for the first time and would like to hear your views.
Thanks for looking.

Tags: Waterfall Brecon beacons Landscape and travel Pontneddfechan Glyn Neath

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paulbroad Plus
14 131 1293 United Kingdom
27 Oct 2014 12:10PM
As soon as I saw this I thought, what's gone wrong wuth the processing. Then I read your notes. HDR is what is wrong. You have compressed the tonal range rather too much and lost the strength that a decnt contrast brings. Not sure why you needed HDR, which is meant to handle excessive tonal ranges which are not present here.

A pleasabt enough well composed scene otherwise, but lacks that impact.

Paul
Mike43 10 320 21 England
27 Oct 2014 1:19PM
I agree with Paul regarding the colors being on the weak side, and not sure why HDR has the subject matter does not need it, for me it is a shame because you found a lovely location for autumn colors.

Also I think the waterfall needs to take up a larger presence within your photo, see uploaded mod.

If you live near I would certainly get myself back before winter for a reshoot.

Mike.
banehawi Plus
17 2.6k 4281 Canada
27 Oct 2014 2:59PM
The subject doesnt suit HDR for me. As an experiment it fine. This is not real HDR which is comprised of a least 7 shots at different exposure, which are combined. Because of this the best HDR subjects will not have any moving elements.

The original shot I think would look good. Much HDR seems to focus heavily on the recovery of highlights, and this has most of the digital data in the right 2/3rds of the histogram, making it light, and low contrast.


Mod uploaded. As I say, the original shot is nicely done, just crop a little from the bottom.


Regards



Willie
pamelajean Plus
15 1.7k 2242 United Kingdom
27 Oct 2014 9:11PM
What a wonderful location you found here, Andrew, enhanced by the autumnal colours, with good space given up to the foreground water, which has lovely movement.
I like the strength of the tree on the right, framing the fall, and its bright orange foliage, quite stunning.

I have to agree with the previous comments about HDR.
Go back to your original and process it again, and maybe let us see that original?
The modifications show interesting alternative compositions for your consideration.

Pamela.
Nikonuser1 Plus
9 170 16 United Kingdom
27 Oct 2014 11:08PM
Agree with all the above, like Willies modSmile

Cliff
dudler Plus
18 1.8k 1892 England
28 Oct 2014 5:06PM
HDR (and imitations) is very much a "Marmite" thing. Some love, some hate it. So it's always a controversial choice!

Something got lost in translation, in this case - the technique is a way of dealing with excessive tonal ranges, but you have a distinctly thin sky, and water highlights bubbling up to the edge of the histogram. Willie's mod makes it look more as (I think) most people will like it, with deeper, beefier tones.
29 Oct 2014 9:03PM

Quote:The subject doesnt suit HDR for me. As an experiment it fine. This is not real HDR which is comprised of a least 7 shots at different exposure, which are combined. Because of this the best HDR subjects will not have any moving elements.

The original shot I think would look good. Much HDR seems to focus heavily on the recovery of highlights, and this has most of the digital data in the right 2/3rds of the histogram, making it light, and low contrast.


Mod uploaded. As I say, the original shot is nicely done, just crop a little from the bottom.


Regards



Willie


Quote:What a wonderful location you found here, Andrew, enhanced by the autumnal colours, with good space given up to the foreground water, which has lovely movement.
I like the strength of the tree on the right, framing the fall, and its bright orange foliage, quite stunning.

I have to agree with the previous comments about HDR.
Go back to your original and process it again, and maybe let us see that original?
The modifications show interesting alternative compositions for your consideration.

Pamela.



Thank you all for your lovely comments, I thought I would use this technique to try and enhance the colour a little. I need a lot of practice with my PP. I have uploaded the original untouched other than it was converted to jpeg within the camera, I do also have it in Raw. I shall attempt to try again along the lines of Willie's version, I really like the way the water has lost its muddy look.
Cheers, Andrew.
dudler Plus
18 1.8k 1892 England
30 Oct 2014 6:43PM
Thank you for the original.

Loads of possibilities for re-editing, especially from the RAW file. I'll post one idea to consider...
pamelajean Plus
15 1.7k 2242 United Kingdom
1 Nov 2014 12:59AM
Thanks for uploading the original, Andrew.
I like John's modification on it.
I also like the wider view and positioning of the fall.

Your HDR version above is a huge crop from the original.
If you had taken this close-up shot at the time, it would have been far better, because you lose a lot of pixels cropping so tight. Something to consider when editing.
Cropping works best when you’re starting with a fairly large image, so remember to shoot the image at the highest resolution possible because cropping reduces the quality. If you’re using small images, you’ll notice the quality of your images can decrease to an unusable level.
It all depends on the number of mega pixels in your original photo and how large you wish to print the cropped picture. However, if you are only displaying your images online, that is seldom a problem.

Pamela.
1 Nov 2014 10:10AM
Thank you once again, I have uploaded another shot which I had previously discounted because it was a tighter shot. I have given it a small crop but I think it lacks the interest of the previous shot. As for PP I have given it a go with this one. I am hoping to get back there tomorrow, weather dependant, and try again.

Cheers, Andrew.
pamelajean Plus
15 1.7k 2242 United Kingdom
4 Nov 2014 3:40PM
No, not too close, Andrew, but just a bit dark.
This latest version would have looked great in vertical format, which you decided looked good when you cropped the original and uploaded it here.
Lots of food for thought.
I will try the first one again , but not HDR'd. Grin

Cheers, Andrew.

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