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By Ray12  
This is the remains of B-29 Superfortress "Overexposed" on Beaklow.

Tags: Peak district Crash Transport Aircraft

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26 May 2020 10:14PM
As a result of seeing this picture I have read up on " Overexposed" online. To see this photograph for the first time without having this background information leaves the viewer mystified. Now that I know what " Overexposed " is then I can appreciate this record of an event which happened many years ago. But the image reveals an aspect of the crash of this aircraft. Why were the remains not taken away from the crash site and left as debris in the countryside? From a photographic angle in my opinion, although we know weather in that district can be bad, as in the photo, I would have thought the author would have chosen a better day, weather wise, which would have made the debris stand out more. David

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banehawi Plus
16 2.2k 4138 Canada
27 May 2020 5:41AM
The -2 did a good job on the sky, but perhaps is a little too dark on the land portion?

I wonder also if youve gone too wide, - mainly as the left side seems a little unbalanced compared to the "weight" of the right side.

Just as a comparison, Ive added exposure to the land area, cropped to 16:9 with a border to see the difference. Going very wide may make a better documentary image though?

Its a very interesting story also.


Robert51 11 7 101 United Kingdom
27 May 2020 8:42AM
First may I say what a great shot. The dark moody feel to the image for me is what the subject is all about and why it may have crashed.

In the mod the first do a little toning to get the feel of an image. This is to de-saturate by about 20% then take the red, green down and the blue up in curves. Followed by adjusting the blue/yellows in levels. Then a little sharpening in high pass to find the detail. Then I added three LUT's the green, amber and foggy. Added a little brightness to the white in the sky using the finger in curves. Last a little edge darkening.

The idea was to try to keep that dark moody look and feel while making it a stronger image. Hope you like it.
dark_lord Plus
16 2.6k 675 England
27 May 2020 11:51AM
Hi Ray,

Good to see you back in the Critique Gallery. It would be nice to hear from you on your thoights, from a photographic perspective, on this image so we canprovide relevant critque.

Until we do, all I can do is concur that this is dark, and tonally on the flat side. Dark is moody (and I like mod so I want to keep that) but a tweak in contrast to the foreground would make that stand out and engage the viewer. The sky has benefited from the -2 EV but at the expense of the land.
If you didn't have a graduated Neutral density filter at the time (ideal here as the horizon is flat with nothing crssing it into the sky like a tree for example) then you could take two images, one for the sky and one for the land, and combine them later. If shootimg RAW you may have been able to create two fersions and combime them.

I shall try a couple of mods just to try alternatives.
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.1k 2229 United Kingdom
27 May 2020 1:38PM
Suitably desolate, it's a part of the world that doesn't do pretty.

This has been covered technically. I'll just add that Pete Bargh, founder of this site, uploaded a very different interpretation here. It's worth looking at, for comparison. My feeling is that there is just a bit too much information in this upload, I would see it as an introduction to close-up compositions, perhaps from a lower pov with the landscape as background; getting into the heart of the place. But that's just how I see the world.
chase Plus
14 1.6k 381 England
27 May 2020 2:21PM
Hi Ray,
Some really interesting stuff left lying around but, I must agree that there is just a bit too much for my eyes to settle on and the fg could do with lightening.
There are many bits here that would be great as images in their own right.
I do like Willies' mod, maybe there is a further crop to remove some of the sky and far landscape too.
I would have been there for hours getting nice and close to some of that debris.
dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1665 England
27 May 2020 4:12PM
Light matters. A grey day would work well for forensic detail shots, but widely-scattered parts possibly call for a long lens to compress perspective.

I can see why you included the lowering sky, but I think that's the big weakness. I cropped heavily and used a severe black-and-white Nik Efex filter for my mod.

This is all about desolation and hopelessness, and a stark treatment suits it, I think.
chase Plus
14 1.6k 381 England
27 May 2020 4:21PM
Some really good mods to give you some different ideas, lots to consider, your input would be appreciated.
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.1k 2229 United Kingdom
27 May 2020 5:20PM
I've added two crops, both aiming to combine the landscape with a more intimate feel. Two important points:

That strip of foreground shadow, along the bottom of the frame is a problem. It acts as a barrier and also draws attention to the emptiness of that area.

Plus, I think the sky is important, it's where the plane came from... Don't ignore the possibilities of portrait format for a subject like this, it creates a more relationship between foreground and horizon Because it doesn't lead the eye horizontally as landscape format does.

For both these I reduced shadows slightly, made a Levels adjustment to boost lighter tones, then did some very gentle dodging on highlights, burning on shadows, huge brush, just 3% exposure, to bring out the foreground detail.

See what you think of the modifications, the Critique Gallery is really about seeing your work through other people's eyes.
BrianSS 13 400 39 England
3 Jun 2020 10:15AM
Interesting image & story of the Superfortress on . . . . Bleaklow

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