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Blackpool ferris wheel!

By Jas2
This is a picture taken as soon as the sun set in Blackpool coast. This is the Ferris wheel on North Pier! Wanted to take an action shot of the Ferris wheel in action. I was lucky to have a wonderful sky in the background to add to the atmosphere!

Comments please regards composition, concept , exposure and anything I could have done better!

Tags: Ferris wheel Landscape and travel

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dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 768 England
28 Apr 2021 5:36PM
This is a very attractive shot, and taken at just the right time to capture the sky, lamplight and ambient ligh, though some minutes either way would also give good results if different moods, as seen in your additional images.

In my mod I brought out the shadow detail a touch using the Shadows/Highlights tool, as that's how you'd see the scene but there's no reason to take the shadows down for some mystery.

I like the movement that the slower shutter speed has produced. It's one of those situations where trial and error produces the 'best' result, and by that I mean the one that pleases you the most as some will prefer more movement than others.

That's all good and would mean votes in the main Gallery.
However, using a wideangle close to and pointing up has created some distortion. Some don't mind that. The Ferris wheel and pier lean at different angles which just looks weird.
So, in my mod I adjusted the distotion of the pier then separately addressed the distortion of the Ferris wheel using a selection on a separate layer using the Mesh Warp tool. As the wheel was against a clear sky it made the task much easier.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4233 Canada
28 Apr 2021 6:26PM
All nice shots.

Uploaded a mod with that geometry tweaked as mentioned above; reduced contrast; used a warmer white balance, increased exposure in select areas, the sea for example.



Regards


W
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
28 Apr 2021 6:27PM
Excellent concept: and staying in position and shooting again and again over the next half hour could have been interesting, too.

The wheel appears to have a bit of a tilt - I shall play with skewing the frame a bit.

You have slight blur from the slow-ish shutter speed: I'd be tempted to up the ISO to allow you to freeze the action, or stop down and go for full-on blur.

And then I spotted your own versions: that works!

Though the tilt is confusing me a lot...
pamelajean Plus
15 1.5k 2214 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2021 7:02PM
You achieved your goal, Jas.

The concept is good, but any shutter speed slower than the one used in your lead image is also going to have an affect on the sky and water. That choice is up to you. Personally, I like the amount of blur that you have here.

Compositionally, in my modification, using Keith's as a start, I placed the wheel on a thirds line by cropping a bit off the left side. I also cropped a bit off the top in order to bring your horizon a bit nearer to one thirds up from the bottom.

Your exposure is ok, but I wanted a bit less black underneath the pier, so I lifted those shadows.

Otherwise, apart from the distortions, which have been addressed, I think you chose a fine viewpoint and composed this well.

Pamela.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
28 Apr 2021 8:09PM
OK. Utterly failed. There is distortion here, resembling pincushion distortion, and I have no idea at all how to correct it.

Both the wheel and the pier supports skew outwards towards the corners. I don't understand how this happened, and correcting it is outside my knowledge and experience. Sorry, Jas. I know what I want to do - pull the image outwards in the middle, on both sides - but my knowledge of Photoshop falls short.
Jas2 3
28 Apr 2021 11:37PM

Quote:This is a very attractive shot, and taken at just the right time to capture the sky, lamplight and ambient ligh, though some minutes either way would also give good results if different moods, as seen in your additional images.

In my mod I brought out the shadow detail a touch using the Shadows/Highlights tool, as that's how you'd see the scene but there's no reason to take the shadows down for some mystery.

I like the movement that the slower shutter speed has produced. It's one of those situations where trial and error produces the 'best' result, and by that I mean the one that pleases you the most as some will prefer more movement than others.

That's all good and would mean votes in the main Gallery.
However, using a wideangle close to and pointing up has created some distortion. Some don't mind that. The Ferris wheel and pier lean at different angles which just looks weird.
So, in my mod I adjusted the distotion of the pier then separately addressed the distortion of the Ferris wheel using a selection on a separate layer using the Mesh Warp tool. As the wheel was against a clear sky it made the task much easier.



Many thanks Keith for the wonderful mod!
I must say I have tried my best at replicating what you have said and after several attempts have failed!

Please explain how I can select the ferris wheel onto a separate layer and then use the mesh warp tool?

I have tried youtubing these and still couldnt find how to use the selection as a separate layer!!

Regards
Jas
Jas2 3
28 Apr 2021 11:40PM

Quote:All nice shots.

Uploaded a mod with that geometry tweaked as mentioned above; reduced contrast; used a warmer white balance, increased exposure in select areas, the sea for example.



Regards


W



Many thanks Willie,

The selective exposure increase in the sea works very well!

However its the distortion correction that intrigues me!!!!

Regards
Jas
Jas2 3
28 Apr 2021 11:44PM

Quote:Excellent concept: and staying in position and shooting again and again over the next half hour could have been interesting, too.

The wheel appears to have a bit of a tilt - I shall play with skewing the frame a bit.

You have slight blur from the slow-ish shutter speed: I'd be tempted to up the ISO to allow you to freeze the action, or stop down and go for full-on blur.

And then I spotted your own versions: that works!

Though the tilt is confusing me a lot...



Hi John,
I did try shooting at various shutter speeds and have taken several frames from both the front ( right) side and the back ( left ) side of the pier!

Yes its the ferris wheel tilt correction that beats me ! I have asked Keith that same question, hope he helps me understand it!

Regards
Jas
Jas2 3
28 Apr 2021 11:47PM

Quote:You achieved your goal, Jas.

The concept is good, but any shutter speed slower than the one used in your lead image is also going to have an affect on the sky and water. That choice is up to you. Personally, I like the amount of blur that you have here.

Compositionally, in my modification, using Keith's as a start, I placed the wheel on a thirds line by cropping a bit off the left side. I also cropped a bit off the top in order to bring your horizon a bit nearer to one thirds up from the bottom.

Your exposure is ok, but I wanted a bit less black underneath the pier, so I lifted those shadows.

Otherwise, apart from the distortions, which have been addressed, I think you chose a fine viewpoint and composed this well.

Pamela.



Many thanks Pamela for your encouragement and using the rule of thirds! I understand your choice and also lifting the shadows, its the distortion bit which I have tried to replicate but failed!
KInd regards
Jas
Jas2 3
28 Apr 2021 11:49PM

Quote:OK. Utterly failed. There is distortion here, resembling pincushion distortion, and I have no idea at all how to correct it.

Both the wheel and the pier supports skew outwards towards the corners. I don't understand how this happened, and correcting it is outside my knowledge and experience. Sorry, Jas. I know what I want to do - pull the image outwards in the middle, on both sides - but my knowledge of Photoshop falls short.



Dear John,
I have failed as well ...LOL, so await Keith's guidance ! Thanks for trying though!

Regards
Jas
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 768 England
29 Apr 2021 4:14PM
Hi Jas,

This may sound more comlicated than it is.
My first step was to make the verticals of the pier vertical. I used the Perspective correction tool in Affinity but I think the Skew tool in Photoshop would be best here as that allows asymmetric correction which is what I foundd here.
That is often sufficient.

For the Wheel.
I made a freehand selection of the wheel from close to its base and with a wide border of sky around it. That helps with any blending around the edges after the next step though what I did was minimal.
With that area selected, Ctrl+J puts it on a separate layer. I used the Warp tool but I only made simpe adjustments so I think using the Perspective correction tool would be (or Skew in Photoshop) would work just as well. You can try each tool and see what looks best or which you find easier to use.
I finished off by Flattening the image and tidying one part of the sky using the Inpainting tool in Affinity (Spot Healing tool in Photoshop).

It's one of the great things about the Critique Gallery that we can use techniques that we don't (often) have the need or opportunity on our own images.

I hope that helps.

Keith
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
29 Apr 2021 5:46PM
That works nicely, Keith.

I'm still wondering how that distortion appeared... I was thinking in terms of correcting pincushion distortion...
Jas2 3
29 Apr 2021 8:07PM
Hi all,

Many thanks to all your suggestions , I have finally been able to somewhat accomplish distortion correction .

Many thanks to Keith to send me the details of how to go about it!

Also thanks to everybody else for the suggestions - selective exposure correction, rule of thirds , composition etc I have been able to make an attempt to apply them in mod 6!
Hope you all like it!
Kind regards
Jas

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