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Boat by the lake

By kimi012
It was a cold, wintery morning and thankfully the sun showed up. I thought of keeping the boat in the lower right corner. Since it was still foggy, the farther regions were a little hazy.
I would appreciate comments on my photograph. What works and what doesn't.
Thanks!

Tags: Still life General Landscape and travel Wildlife and nature

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Comments


Otinkyad 20 2 7 United Kingdom
23 Jan 2016 10:47AM
Nice composition with the curve of the shore and the gap between the 2 "headlands" roughly in line with the boat - although I would crop a bit off the left hand side (about up to where the curve ends). The overall effect is restful.

Contre-jour shots are always going to be high contrast, but have you in fact increased the contrast in post production? This very high contrast might have been the effect you were aiming for - in which case that's your aesthetic choice. Personally I would have liked to have seen a bit more detail in the v bright & v dark areas. Although full sun reflected on water is almost always going to be a bit blown (not necessarily a bad thing). If you had shot in RAW you might have been able to pull out a bit more detail - or perhaps in-camera HDR might have achieved even more. Does the 600D have this feature - worth having a play with it if the camera has it.

Richard
mrswoolybill Plus
16 4.1k 2606 United Kingdom
23 Jan 2016 2:14PM
I like this a lot, particularly the way the boat is cradled in an arc at the base of the frame, and the oars seem to be waiting for us. But like Richard above I am sensing quite a lot of processing! As well as the toning, I think you have lightened shadows quite a bit on the foreground shore, and the result is a bit harsh and 2-dimensional.

Could you upload the original file please, as a version or as a modification, for reference please?
Moira
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 2018 England
23 Jan 2016 4:24PM
Lovely composition: but the contrast seems excessive. Obviously, shooting into the light, contrast will be high, and you either need to use HDR of some sort, or decide which areas to sacrifice.

In trying to reduce the contrast a bit, I found that there was some blocking of tone in the sky - see the outlined area in my mod. This suggests processing...

paulbroad 15 131 1294 United Kingdom
23 Jan 2016 4:54PM
There is great potential here, but the burnt out sun and reflections simply ruin it I'm afraid. I don't know if it's processing or just gross over exposure. How did you meter? From the foreground I guess. The sun is just too bright and exposing for the highlights would send everything but the highlights black.

For me, I fear you cannot rescue this.

Paul
dark_lord Plus
19 3.0k 836 England
23 Jan 2016 8:17PM
A very high contrast situation so you are going to struggle with detail in one area or another.

I like the composition and simplicity of the scene. If you don't want to or can't do HDR, you could always take two shots at different exposures, one to gain some shadow detail and another to restrain the highlights, and blend them together later. Given the simple nature of the composition, a straightforward graduated layer mask would suffice.

It's easier and more visually pleasing to be able to increase contrast from an image with at least some detail in it than try to recover detail from an image that has very little.

If you do still have the original and haven't overwritten it with this version, it would help if you could upload it so that others can see what they can get from it.
kimi012 7 1 India
27 Jan 2016 11:48AM

Quote:Nice composition with the curve of the shore and the gap between the 2 "headlands" roughly in line with the boat - although I would crop a bit off the left hand side (about up to where the curve ends). The overall effect is restful.

Contre-jour shots are always going to be high contrast, but have you in fact increased the contrast in post production? This very high contrast might have been the effect you were aiming for - in which case that's your aesthetic choice. Personally I would have liked to have seen a bit more detail in the v bright & v dark areas. Although full sun reflected on water is almost always going to be a bit blown (not necessarily a bad thing). If you had shot in RAW you might have been able to pull out a bit more detail - or perhaps in-camera HDR might have achieved even more. Does the 600D have this feature - worth having a play with it if the camera has it.

Richard



Thanks Richard! I usually shoot JPEG, though I agree RAW would have given me much more liberty in the post production. To answer your question, I don't think Canon EOS 600D has HDR.

Kimi.
kimi012 7 1 India
27 Jan 2016 11:49AM

Quote:I like this a lot, particularly the way the boat is cradled in an arc at the base of the frame, and the oars seem to be waiting for us. But like Richard above I am sensing quite a lot of processing! As well as the toning, I think you have lightened shadows quite a bit on the foreground shore, and the result is a bit harsh and 2-dimensional.

Could you upload the original file please, as a version or as a modification, for reference please?
Moira



Thank you Moira, I ws confused whether I should lighten the shadows or not and you answered that for me. The result does look a bit more harsh. I have uploaded the original of this picture. Smile

Kimi.
kimi012 7 1 India
27 Jan 2016 11:56AM

Quote:Lovely composition: but the contrast seems excessive. Obviously, shooting into the light, contrast will be high, and you either need to use HDR of some sort, or decide which areas to sacrifice.

In trying to reduce the contrast a bit, I found that there was some blocking of tone in the sky - see the outlined area in my mod. This suggests processing...




Thanks for the mod! Smile
kimi012 7 1 India
27 Jan 2016 11:59AM

Quote:There is great potential here, but the burnt out sun and reflections simply ruin it I'm afraid. I don't know if it's processing or just gross over exposure. How did you meter? From the foreground I guess. The sun is just too bright and exposing for the highlights would send everything but the highlights black.

For me, I fear you cannot rescue this.

Paul



Yeah, it didn't turn out quite right. I have uploaded the original. Maybe that would help.
Smile

Kimi.
kimi012 7 1 India
27 Jan 2016 12:00PM

Quote:A very high contrast situation so you are going to struggle with detail in one area or another.

I like the composition and simplicity of the scene. If you don't want to or can't do HDR, you could always take two shots at different exposures, one to gain some shadow detail and another to restrain the highlights, and blend them together later. Given the simple nature of the composition, a straightforward graduated layer mask would suffice.

It's easier and more visually pleasing to be able to increase contrast from an image with at least some detail in it than try to recover detail from an image that has very little.

If you do still have the original and haven't overwritten it with this version, it would help if you could upload it so that others can see what they can get from it.



Thanks for the suggestion. I have uploaded the original, please have a look at it Smile

Kimi.

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