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Bodiam

By AnnChown
Hot off the press - taken less than two hours ago. Unfortunately, no mist, but a beautiful clear tranquil morning. The colour of the reflection in the water is deeper than the colour of the sky - I think I read somewhere once that this isn't good - any clarification, please?
Thanks for looking and for any criticisms and/or comments.
Ann
Just decided to upload another version, taking into the sunrise from the other side of the castle.

Tags: Castle Bodiam Landscape and travel

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morpheus1955 9 3 2 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 8:31AM
Good morning Ann, what a superb shot, great light and composition, and those reflections are to die for.

Hugh

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PaulLiley 7 2 13 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 8:33AM
Hi Ann. The colours might be a little deeper but none the worse for that. the reflections are stunning. Great composition. paul
Richsr Plus
9 91 223 England
3 Oct 2011 8:46AM
Well worth the early start Ann, some nice reflections and colours.
Richard.
3 Oct 2011 8:51AM
the stillness caught here is overwhelming..
franken Plus
14 4.0k 4 Wales
3 Oct 2011 8:52AM
Very nice, version 1 for me Ann.


Ken
geffers7 Plus
6 45 1 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 8:52AM
Some really nice colours there Ann and very good reflections.
Geoff
CaroleS Plus
6 423 3 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 8:59AM
Beautiful morning light and superb reflection Ann. Carole
WhiteRose1 Plus
6 1.6k 148 England
3 Oct 2011 9:27AM
v1, lovely image.

Dave
RonnieAG Plus
6 153 116 Scotland
3 Oct 2011 9:40AM
I can't explain the conundrum you pose today, Ann, but I remember reading something about this once: reflections can be darker or lighter and it all seems to relate to time of day, light quality and direction and other factors, but your image in V 1 looks completely natural so I would not be concerned in any way. Very well composed shot with excellent reflections in the flat calm waters. The colouring in V 2 is quite different, generally warmer, but it's V 1 for me of the two.
Ronnie.
woolybill1 Plus
9 22 68 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 9:51AM
This is really rather lovely, Ann. The castle could be walking on the water, if you see what I mean. Outstanding clarity and a beautiful sky.

I haven't heard the one about respective tonal depth of original and reflection; it sounds more like someone's personal preference than an obvious fault.

Regards
Bill
mrswoolybill Plus
9 965 1493 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 10:58AM
Re the comparison between sky and reflection, I think it may be in part because the reflected sky doesn't go 'down' as far as the brighter light that we see at horizon level in the upper part of the image, so proportionally the reflection is darker.
This is a beautiful comparison, of the two I think V1 is the right lead, for composition, detail, clarity. But I love the tones in V2. A very gentle, very English dawn.
Moira
SlowSong Plus
8 6.4k 29 England
3 Oct 2011 11:33AM
How lovely to get up so early and be able to reach such picturesque scenery. Today is much better than yesterday thankfully. V1 today, for the clarity.
Chris
3 Oct 2011 11:59AM
What a absolutely superb shot, both of them, but I love the warmth of the colors in V2, and no matter about the reflections!!! they work and thats all that counts...Jo
gingerdelight 10 298 11 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 3:36PM
I like them both very much Ann - but I think V1 just edges it for me today - just lovely!
Carol
jonwebber 8 4 1 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 3:52PM
Superb. V1 by one and one half a whisker.
jon
marktc Plus
5 86 14 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 4:11PM
Fab pair of images Ann, but it's v1 for me
3 Oct 2011 4:17PM
A great duo, V1 with it's wonderful reflection and seems straighter..........Sandy
fraser 12 631 14 Scotland
3 Oct 2011 5:48PM
Lovely framing and detail Ann and I really like the quality of the soft light.

Fraser
AnnChown Plus
6 199 1 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 5:55PM

Quote:A great duo, V1 with it's wonderful reflection and seems straighter..........Sandy

Sandy - you're absolutely right; I think v2 needs to be straightened a bit!
Ann
saltireblue Plus
6 5.9k 33 Norway
3 Oct 2011 6:07PM
The sun lights up the sky directly, but the water is only indirectly lit, ergo the reflection will naturally be slightly darker. Later in the day when the sun is higher, the sky and reflection will be more identical.

V1 for me today, Ann, but don't ask why as I don't know myself!

Malc
Sue_R 10 11 6 Scotland
3 Oct 2011 6:10PM
Two lovely images. Both good and I really can't choose between them.

Sue Smile
MartPics 10 7 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 6:14PM
2nd image for me Ann, love the colour.

Martin.
nikshot 7 9 1 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 6:14PM
Both lovely shots Ann, I like the tones in V2 strait or not.

Nick
danbrann Plus
12 621 17
3 Oct 2011 7:35PM
What tremendous record Ann. Fantastic.
jasonrwl Plus
6 1.1k 10 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 10:56PM
Both wonderful shots Ann. V1 just edges it for me with the clarity of the reflection and the fab early morning light.
Jason
AshTree 7 1.7k 6 England
3 Oct 2011 11:18PM
I love to see this sort of comparison, the same subject taken from two opposing angles - the difference in lighting effect can be so striking. V1 is so perfect, wonderful clarity of detail and a beautiful sky..... but V2 gets my vote for the soft warm tones which lend an air of enchantment, like a fairy tale castle.
Theresa
Mynett 8 142 6 United Kingdom
3 Oct 2011 11:21PM
v2 LOVE THE LIGHT
bricurtis Plus
11 2.1k 49 England
3 Oct 2011 11:27PM
V1 for me Ann - I like the deep dark shadows from the early light.
Brian.
The reflection is normally darker than the reality, it's a rule of thumb and the phsics is beyond me, but it dos look better that way, I do a lot of reflection shots and have played about with some.

You missed the mist here but it's till a very attractive image Ann. You'll be back no doubt.

Dougie
Anna62 5 1 Australia
4 Oct 2011 10:47AM
who needs mist when you have such stunningly beautiful reflections!! Well done Ann. Smile
4 Oct 2011 7:47PM
Great view point Ann.

John Smile
derekhansen Plus
7 210 24 United Kingdom
4 Oct 2011 10:01PM
Hi Ann
2 lovely images. On balance I think I prefer V2. The composition works better IMO.
Re relative light/dark of reflected skies. As Dougie and Malc have said the reflected tones would normally be darker so you have it correct in your image. I have learnt to be careful with ND grads when I am using them on images with reflections in water. I tend to use soft grads with lakes which seems to keep things looking quite natural.
Is V2 an older shot? Looks to me like a sunset rather than a sunrise due to the position of the sun. (Unless you have done some really complicated work in post production)
Derek

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