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By Chin_Asan
I photographed all the objects separately, only then everything was combined into one composition. Your opinion is very important for me, this is my first experiment with Photoshop thanks.

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mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2461 United Kingdom
20 Sep 2020 8:51AM
Hi Elchin, welcome to ePHOTOzine and to the Critique Gallery. I see that you have just joined the site, I hope you will enjoy it - it's a very friendly community and there's a lot here apart from the galleries, so explore.

You ticked for critique when you uploaded - that has the effect of disabling votes and awards but it invites more in-depth comment.

I see that you are an archaeological photographer exploring Still Life as a leisure activity. I really like the egg on the plate, it's simple, attractive. White on white is not easy. I have a question though. What was your primary intention here - a satisfying composition or a technical exercise? On both counts there are things that jar slightly.

Some items appear to be floating in space. The two slices of bread (why are they b&w?) cast very dark directional shadows on the background, the plate casts a faint shadow all round, the knife has no shadow. One of the main requirements for a composite to hold together is that the light (intensity and direction) needs to be consistent.

The cut-off fork looks awkward, as do the angles of the two items of cutlery. If you want to include cutlery, I would suggest placing them side by side and keeping both complete. Maybe angle them into the bottom right corner occupied here by the bread.

Can I suggest that as an exercise you photograph this 'for real', plate, cutlery and bread against a plain background, and compare it with the composite. I think the comparison would be interesting, and revealing.

That's just my thoughts, our Still Life specialist will arrive here! But we really need to know how you see this, how it works for you.

One further point for future reference, we generally ask critique uploaders to include the Exif for a shot, not to use Save for web which deletes the data from the file. I hope we will see more from you and that you will find the Critique Gallery useful.
Moira

20 Sep 2020 9:49AM
hello, thanks for the useful criticism, although I have been doing photography for many years but in photoshop I am new to this photography technical exercise I accept all the criticism for this photography there are mistakes and technical and creative I will try to follow your advice I was very important to listen to your recommendations thanks.
chase Plus
16 2.2k 582 England
20 Sep 2020 10:54AM
Hi Elchin,
As a first experiment with photoshop it is ok, well done for having a go at a rather complicated subject.
For me though, this just doesn't work for many of the reasons Moira has pointed out above.
Things just aren't looking as though they belong together ( I know they do in reality ), even the egg looks a bit floaty to me and not actually on the plate.
The cut off fork is a big distraction and the bread would not sit like you have here when a still life is taken from above. When doing it that way things need to be taken from the same angle in order to look convincing, even if you do it in a composite, which, for me isn't really necessary for this particular image.
I'm not sure why some parts of this composite are in B&W, especially the bread. if you intend to colour pop then just the yolk of the egg may be one way.
I am sure this image would look for more interesting and convincing if it were taken in one go as Moira has suggested, the lighting would be even and realistic , lighting is so very important for still life images and can change the look of a frame in an instant.

The bg is rather complicated, perhaps a plainer one would work better, putting the emphasis on your subject matter much more. A piece of plain card or similar would work, better still a tablecloth, slightly crumpled or even just a kitchen tea towel, something in keeping with your main subject but not distracting.

Knife and fork arranged either side of the pate with the bread on the edge of the plate would give you a much simpler but easier to view image.Perhaps include a slice of bacon, a salt and pepper pot or just a simple cup of tea.... a ready to eat breakfast, yum.

Sorry to be so negative Elchin, there are some positives...focus is good, detail is good and I like the shape of the light hitting the egg yolk.
So not everything is on the negative side.
Arrange your subjects as you would see them, look for the light and shadows, take a step back and really look hard at your composition.

Still life is not an easy genre, I hope to see more from you.
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4270 Canada
20 Sep 2020 2:03PM
Good work apart from the bread, knife and fork having the appearance of floating.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2461 United Kingdom
20 Sep 2020 2:40PM
Just as an afterthought, for composites to look good a number of things really need to be consistent throughout the frame. I would list:
Light - intensity and direction;
White balance;
Focal length used;
Scale;
Perspective;
Plane of focus.
Alternatively you can go for the collage look, like pictures pasted onto a page in a scrap book, but that's a very different matter.
20 Sep 2020 2:59PM
thanks, I'll take your criticism into account.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1879 England
20 Sep 2020 9:09PM
Welcome from me, too.

Critique and criticism aren't the same thing - we aim to give you positive suggestions, rather than telling you things are wrong...

The more you can tell us about what you intended, the more we can help you.

I understand that there's a big difference between your work, and what you're doing here - I think you may be trying to produce a surreal effect, while archaeological photography is about producing a completely accurate record. Am I right about this?
20 Sep 2020 9:30PM
it was an experiment for me, I really wanted to create something surreal objects that are in the air, it didn't work out quite well, but I'll try again
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4270 Canada
20 Sep 2020 10:02PM
Its important that you say this, experimenting with surrealism, in the description chinasan, as otherwise we are led on the wrong track completely wasting our time and yours.


W
21 Sep 2020 7:39AM
Excellent critique from the Team, but when you mention that you were trying to create something surreal, from a critical point of view that immediately changes everything. We are plunged into a dream-world where conventional logic no longer applies. Shadows, for example, can lie wherever you want them to.
I think the surreal effect might be greater if you were able to make it more obvious that the egg floats above the plate.

Alan
chase Plus
16 2.2k 582 England
21 Sep 2020 8:36AM
After reading your latest comment, a very different light is shed on your image.
It is really important that you let us know your intentions with an image in your initial description.
To really give a floating effect, the alternative way to take your images would be from the side, not from above,then stack each one as you see fit.
Creating floating subjects taken from above you need much more emphasis on the space you create between your subjects and probably on a much plainer bg.
Saastad 2 16 15 Norway
26 Sep 2020 12:03AM
Hi,
I really enjoy this fantasy word and your experiment.
In my eyes the composition is very good.
I would have loved if the knife and fork was flying a bit more.
It would have done it even more surreal.

Arne Smile

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