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Bridge to the Harbour

By brian1208
I'm still trying to develop my skills in B&W processing so would welcome suggestions on how this can be improved.

Processed from RAW in LR2 using the "Greyscale" slider then colour adjustments to selectively darken the sky, enhance sand and grass detail

Tags: Black and white Landscape and travel

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CathR 14 151 564 United Kingdom
31 Mar 2009 12:44PM
Compositionally I think this shot works well with the bridge acting as a lead in to the pic, although I would have waited until the couple were a bit closer. At the moment they are a bit lost in the shot.

As to b & w, successful shots start with being able to look at a scene and assess whether it would convert well to b & w. I know from personal experience it is very hard to do, but instead of looking at the colour you look for the tones of black and white. Ideally you want a broad range of tones right the way through from black to grey to white, or for a very dramatic, high contrast pic, just pure black and white.

Here, in my opinion, you don't have much of a spread of tones which makes for a blandish conversion. I have uploaded a mod where I have boosted the contrast a bit to make the scene pop a tad more. You could get going with the dodge and burn tools to get more light and shade into the pic, but as I said before, you really need to start with the right scene.


old timer 16 55 1 Scotland
31 Mar 2009 12:45PM
Nice, but could do with a tad more contrast.
brian1208 17 11.8k 12 United Kingdom
31 Mar 2009 2:37PM
Thanks for the prompt feedback Catherine and Jim, I take your point about tonal range.

I do wonder if there may be an effect of screen brightness and contrast in play?

On my screen (which is set quite low brightness & high contrast to match my prints to screen) I have a wide range of tones from pure black to pure white .

I check tones with the colour picker tool to get the RGB colours across the image and also use the histogram to check tonal balance.

With this image I find full white to full black (0,0,0 - 255,255,255) and that the histogram is a bit compressed on the black side, has a spike to the lighter side but is well contained in the vertical axis.

It prints the same too.

The mods that you and Jim have done look quite dark and almost over-contrasty on my screen.

Good point about the couple, I hadn't spotted them in this shot until you pointed them out Christine!

Its one thing I need to learn with this wide angle stuff, they look ever so small hiding in the corner of the viewfinder! Smile
CathR 14 151 564 United Kingdom
31 Mar 2009 5:40PM
Could be my monitor. I have a bog standard one and although I calibrate it regularly it struggles to differentiate the black shades at the far end of the calibration bar below.

On the other hand it may be a matter of taste. I quite like high contrast b and w pics but they are not everybody's cuppa.


brian1208 17 11.8k 12 United Kingdom
31 Mar 2009 5:49PM
Thanks Catherine, I do appreciate you taking the time to look and comment and take you point. I will play with some "S" curves to see what changes I can make


(With my curtains drawn and the room darkened I can see all shades - but I spent a lot of effort on my greyscale calibration before I even start with the Spider Pro 2)

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