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By Sillu
Hi i am tyring to get in the infants photography can you jugde me on how i did ? I used bouncing flash fron behind

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dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1716 England
27 Feb 2018 5:46AM
Now, styling is definitely NOT my area, but i think it's soemthign that you need to think about very carefully for this sort of image.

To my eye, the background is too dark and too busy, and so is the cloth inside the basket. Both would look better (and less intrusive) if they were delicate whites or off-whites.

More light on the front, too... The light from behind is nice, but the face (which any parent will want to see clearly and brightly) is relatively shaded.

The basket handle is a little intrusive, as well.

If yo uwant to sell this kind of picture, the bar is set quite high, and there are a lot of people who are thoroughly painstaking with their styling and lighting, whose work you will need to match or surpass. It's not easy - certainly nto a task I'd be keen to take on!

I shall do a mod reducing contrast, saturation and vibrance, increasing exposure. It's not a look that suits every image, but it may work here.

Robert51 11 7 107 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2018 8:43AM
I think you got the subject and the outfit, the problem is the pose of the the set up. To be honest this really doesn't work, if only you had moved further around. I am sorry to say this as I don't like pointing finding fault but it's all part of the learning process.

It may be worth looking at images by the lady who started this Anne Geddes.

mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.3k 2275 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2018 8:47AM
Full marks first of all for looking for an individual set-up. This almost works for me but there's a big problem.

The angle you have used, looking along from just beyond the top of the baby's head, is interesting but a difficult one to make it work. The problem I think is the hat, it's so big. The angle makes the hat the dominant area in the frame. That's not what it should be about. A suggestion: take off the hat and move the camera a few degrees anti-clockwise so that you include the lower body, and this would be a much better picture.

The basket would work if it wasn't for the handle. Either remove the handle, or simply use the fur rug which will make a fine contrast to the baby's skin tones.

If you want to use the hat, look for another angle where the baby's features are the first thing the viewer sees, not the last. Keep the hat as a frame for the head, in the background.

What I want to do here:

1) Crop much tighter, get rid of most of the hat and some of the basket at the bottom, leave it as simple an arc to cradle the baby;

2) Get rid of the basket handle;

3) A bit of gentle dodging on the face, to get some light there. A simple reflector would be a good idea, but you need a tame assistant to hold it!
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.3k 2275 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2018 9:01AM
I've uploaded a modification, with the above adjustments. Looking at the image close up, I think the focus is a bit too close, on the rim of the hat, whereas it needs to be on the face. That would then make the hat softer, another reason for dispensing with the hat!

One other point - watch shutter speed carefully. 1/50 second is risky if hand-holding - and even if a tripod is used it's risky for a living, breathing, twitching, blinking, yawning child!

I shall also try mono with a hint of sepia...
paulbroad 13 131 1289 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2018 9:04AM
All I see is a wooly hat. John has it at the top of this page. Tiny babies need careful thought and do not, in my opinion, make good images often. They all tend to look the same. The positioning is not good here and general composition has room at top and right which is not needed.

However, the answer is to do what the parents want if you wish to sell. You need to satisfy the customer, not yourself.

Sillu 5 Malta
27 Feb 2018 9:45AM
These are really help full thanks.. i need to make one thing clear for my self , IS FLASH BAD FOR INFANTS ??
pablophotographer 9 1.7k 387
27 Feb 2018 9:52AM

Quote:These are really help full thanks.. i need to make one thing clear for my self , IS FLASH BAD FOR INFANTS ??

Not when they sleep soundly and if it is from their back I think.
pablophotographer 9 1.7k 387
27 Feb 2018 10:06AM
A bunny without ears is not fun, the ears to my opinion should stay firmly in the image.

I am surprised no one discussed technicalities so far....
You could have shot the child from a 90 degrees angle so as the camera lens is totally vertical to the basket with the child horizontally or vertically you from above looking downwards.

Most importantly you could have shot this wider, not at 70mm but at 50mm so as the handle of the basket is not a stand alone pole but a part from the basket. Mind you, one other way is to digitally mask it under the furry background.
Talking of fur, make sure that the furry brown blanket is well tucked bellow the rim level of the basket so it is not in the way.

paulbroad 13 131 1289 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2018 12:09PM
Flash is no worse for infants than anyone else, animal or human. Do not have it too close or too much in the eyes, just as you would for anyone else. If the child appears to react negatively - stop!

banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4169 Canada
27 Feb 2018 1:11PM
Its all been said.

More light, more baby, less hat. And flash has no ill effects on babies. But dont use it as it can look awful.

Mod added. Similar in a way to dudlers, but I tried to "move" the camera more to the left.

Sillu 5 Malta
27 Feb 2018 7:10PM
BANEHAWI why did you tell me "dont use flash as it will look awful?
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1716 England
27 Feb 2018 10:03PM
I suspect that Willie means that direct flash form the camera position is almost always too harsh and unsubtle.

For any portrait, flash needs to be used carefully, and usually with a large (60cm square or bigger) soft box. Were you using studio flash (mains powered, with modelling lamps) or speedlights? The latter need a lot of experience to use for good results, because they don't have modelling lamps, and you don't

Flash will startle a baby who is awake, but moderate power units won't do harm to their eyes.
Sillu 5 Malta
1 Mar 2018 9:16PM
Hi dudler thanks for the reply,
I use godox speed light ghand in that shoot i used bouncing flash .will upload another photo from this shoot.
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1716 England
2 Mar 2018 1:03PM
I've realised that I left a sentence unfinished.

I would always recommend using studio flash units rather than speedlights. Having a modelling lamp means that you can see how the picture will look before you take it. Speedlights lack modelling lamps, and so the results are a little unpredictable. They require far more experience and imagination to get things right!
Sillu 5 Malta
2 Mar 2018 1:42PM
Hi dudler,
Yes i was searching for something like that but they are so expansive to buy ... :/ if you know some sponsers let me know Grin
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1716 England
2 Mar 2018 3:08PM
You can get outfits with three lights, stands and all the stuff you need to make things work for under 200 at the moment. I was pleasantly surprised by the kit that one of my tutees had bought. It's not as heavy-duty as traditional outfits, but for occasional use, it definitely does the job. Decent power,fast recycling, and generally food value.

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