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Burned Thursley Common Trees

By Shamley
There had been a big fire on the Nature Reserve.
I went later to see the result and added some imagination.

Tags: Trees Flowers and plants Textures Desolation Graphic art

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chase Plus
16 2.2k 580 England
30 Sep 2020 4:54PM
Hi John,
This is a great subject, lots of textures on those charred trees.
It would be good to know what you have done to this and perhaps see the original, you can upload it as a mod for us to have a look at.

I suspect you have added a texture here as I can see some lighter areas on the tree trunks where you have probably removed some of it, easily sorted with the clone tool set to 'darken' on a nice soft brush.
It does look quite artistic, but, for me, perhaps just a wee bit heavily applied, difficult to judge without seeing the original though.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2457 United Kingdom
30 Sep 2020 5:15PM
Pluses: I really like the simplicity, the use of portrait format, and the high horizon.

Settings - I wonder if a tripod was used for safety with that relatively slow shutter speed? Seeing the increased ISO, I guess that it wasn't. You didn't really need F/11, F/8 would have been fine and would have given a safer shutter speed. The plus exposure compensation was sensible, photographing a subject against background light.

Minuses: The processing is far too intrusive for my taste. Three problems with that - the texture layer looks detached from the background, a separate plane, rather than blending with it; it draws attention to the background, rather than allowing it to do what backgrounds ought to do, sit back discreetly; and it flattens the perspective, gives a 2-dimensional effect.

We really need to see the original, click on the blue Modifications button below your upload, then on Upload Modification, to add it. And we need to know what you did.
Moira
Shamley 13 United Kingdom
30 Sep 2020 8:00PM
As requested I enclose 3 modifications to show what I did and what I was trying to achieve.
I knew there was a picture there but , as usual, went over the top. I have only just discovered the potential of textures and am looking for a "guiding hand".
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 784 England
30 Sep 2020 8:41PM
This is an effective image.

I've only briefly played with textures so I'll leave it to others todeal with the nitty gritty. I guess I don't take that many images that suit the texture approach.

That said, this is the type of image that would. It does have an Armageddon look (and I guess a fire in the reserve would be akin to that).

I might have tried a step or two to the right so there's complete separation of the three tree trunks and tried a lower viewpoint too perhaps to make more of those fallen branches that tantalisingy run out of frame here, furhter highlighting the devastation.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1877 England
30 Sep 2020 10:29PM
I think that the salient issues are whether adding a texture helps the image (my feeling is that it doesn't), and the composition.

There's a powerful image here, as Moira says, but it's your choice whether to make the most of it by gentle polishing, or to make it utterly alien and create a digital image that steps aside from reality. I tend towards the literal, so I question the +1 exposure, and have done a mod beefing things up a bit. I can also see a dark, apocalyptic monochrome working, though as I'm on holiday on a laptop, I won't be able to try it...

I would like to see a fraction more room at the bottom left corner, and maybe loose the disconnected twig top right. The former requires different framing in camera: the latter is easily cloneable.
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4264 Canada
1 Oct 2020 5:05AM
Thanks for uploading the layers with the feedback, its useful.


Ive tried a mod using the layer, overlaid on top of the trees, darkened trees, reduced saturation, also less red.


I dont know if its better, but its different.


Regards


Willie
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2457 United Kingdom
1 Oct 2020 10:08AM
I really like the b&w version 1. It has a dry, ashy, dusty look, for me it says aftermath of fire much better than colour can.
chase Plus
16 2.2k 580 England
1 Oct 2020 3:08PM
Thanks for coming back to us with the extra information John, that's very helpful.

I agree with Keith with ref to your POV, a few steps to your right would have given some separation between the trees and, the inclusion of the base of the large tree should really have been included at the bottom left corner as John has suggested, just to complete the tree.

Applying textures is all about the after effect, how it fits with your intentions and of course your subject matter.
I can see you reason for adding the effect you did but it is way overdone, the texture takes over the image and you miss the actual subject.

So, I did 2 mods, one (the lighter one) based on your B&W and the other on your colour version, I removed the intrusive branch on the right on both mods with the clone tool set to 'lighten'
I used exactly the same texture on each frame but at different opacities and used a mask on each one to remove some of the texture where I thought it needed to be removed, again using different opacities on the brush.

I did add a hint of smoke on each image, again, changing the opacity of the smoke as I saw fit.
You can easily download a set of smoke brushes to use.

Don't know if they suit your intentions John but for me, there is still the hint of a fire without being apocalyptic and a very different look to the final images.
HTH
Janet xx
Shamley 13 United Kingdom
2 Oct 2020 4:42PM
Thanks for all your inputs - I will get down to more Affinity photobashing.
Best Wishes,
John

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