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Busking

By Philo  
Fed up with boring photos, against plain backdrops, Sam has turned to busking in Leeds Wink
This is a work in progress so any helpful feedback would be great before developing this further. Ideally I would like to place his sax case at his feet, with a few pennies thrown in, to enhance the busking theme.
Original shot uploaded as a version. Exif relates to original shot of Sam.
Looking forward to your comments.
Phil

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JackAllTog Plus
11 5.9k 58 United Kingdom
21 Jul 2012 8:52PM
Super image, amazingly 'background ' , should texture go over hands & face?

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Philo 9 99 83 England
21 Jul 2012 9:02PM
Funnily enough Stuart I was just working on another version with the texture toned down a little. After I uploaded it was the first thing I noticed.
Alternative version uploaded.
Thanks,
Phil
pamelajean Plus
14 1.3k 2117 United Kingdom
22 Jul 2012 12:25PM
I immediately thought "busking", Phil, so you achieved your goal.
The new background looks good, but I'm not keen on the texturing, purely personal.
The idea of the sax case and coins is good.
Just a few very small niggles really:-
1. The white of the parking lines is bright between his legs. In fact, I might be inclined to remove the 39th bay and grid altogether, giving him a cleaner background.
2. The white numbers keep drawing my eye. However, I generally like that background scene.
3. Would he be standing more to the side (in reality), rather than in the middle of the "road"?
4. There is lovely detail on the sax player in the original, but the texturing masks that. Should the texturing be left on him?
Pamela.
Philo 9 99 83 England
22 Jul 2012 3:11PM
Thanks Pamela, some good points to think about. I may try a version without the texture at all and perhaps another with it just on the background. The reason for placing Sam to one side was twofold: I normally think of buskers off to the side, perhaps against a wall; I thought it placed is head nicely in the frame without distractions.
I will have another play tomorrow and see what happens. Far too many choices for me with this sort of thing!
Phil
Eviscera 13 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
22 Jul 2012 11:43PM
mmm ,

Well , its a good extract and deffo not boring Smile

Consider how the light source of your b.g matches that of your subject , and how much it competes for attention. You're shooting your main subject under controlled light sources and temperatures , and thats gonna need matching with the directional light in the composite as well.

Any shadows gotta fit that length.


You can consolidate it all p.p and then whack a texture if that floats , but , maybe better to just start simple and find a setting that draws the sax player only.

Keep the vision !
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4096 Canada
23 Jul 2012 2:44AM
Its good work Phil, especially the extraction.

Some more points and tips.

IN the original, his pose suggests he is leaning against the fireplace, - to me at least, so in the composite, he should lean against something, a wall perhaps? (Let me know if this makes sense, or if Im seeing things!)

Making the shadow, - if you have the cut-out of Sam, you can fill it with black, and use it, with the transform tool, gaussian blur and opacity to make a very real shadow. In the original, the shadow goes the other direction, so thats a cue for the composite too.


A good start, - have a look for different texture/background, - wall and lamppost Im thinking



Willie
Philo 9 99 83 England
23 Jul 2012 9:37AM
Good tips as always, Willie. I see your point about leaning against something so I will take that on board.
Regarding the shadow: I used the technique you suggest and is cast in that direction because I lit Sam from camera right. Shadow looks better on V3 I think.
The real problem I have with this sort of thing is a lack of backgrounds so I need to start taking shots with this in mind.
I remembered to save this as a psd so at least I can use the cut out of Sam on any background. See how this evolves!
Thanks,
Phil
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4096 Canada
23 Jul 2012 3:33PM
Check out Flickr, - you can often find free backgrounds there, - do a search.


Wilie
Philo 9 99 83 England
23 Jul 2012 7:07PM
That's cheatingWink
pamelajean Plus
14 1.3k 2117 United Kingdom
27 Jul 2012 8:00PM

Quote:3. Would he be standing more to the side (in reality), rather than in the middle of the "road"?


Quote:The reason for placing Sam to one side was twofold: I normally think of buskers off to the side, perhaps against a wall; I thought it placed is head nicely in the frame without distractions.



I didn't mean that placing Sam to one side was a problem, Phil, far from it, it looks good. It's just that, in your background, he is standing in the middle of the road and, as you say, buskers are usually found against a wall or shop front. Yes, he is well placed in the frame.
I think you are right, you need to start shooting backgrounds that you can use in cases like this, otherwise you are limited.
Pamela.
Philo 9 99 83 England
27 Jul 2012 10:46PM
Yes Pamela, I have come to the conclusion that the background doesn't quite work as intended. It has been fun though so hopefully not the last. Sorry for any confusion as I now realise I didn't really address your point.
Phil

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