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Bussy stingray

By Yebach
Another pic of a stingray being check out by another fish.

all the exif details are attached.

Using Salted line hgousing, no strobes. Post production done in LR.

Please rate my CC. I couldn't get the dots to be the right color. I desaturated the pic and set the whitebalance to get the more "authentic look"

thank you.

You can compare to another pic of a sting ray

Tags: Fish Stingray Wildlife and nature


mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.0k 2465 United Kingdom
26 Jul 2021 12:28PM
Well done, it's a good shot! This is way better than the previous upload. I'd like to see the original, before you worked in LR, but the processing looks much more sympathetic. I'm surprised at how little colour there is in the sea anemones, I assume that this is down to dusty sand. But there is a hint of the yellow tone on the ray's head.

And equally important, the angle of the body and tail is dynamic, and you have the wonderful eyeball-to-eyeball contact with another species.

Again settings look sensible, I wish you would move beyond program mode but maximum aperture F/5.6 was fine, the shutter speed was just fast enough for safety assuming no sudden movement, and ISO was increased to cope.

I've added a modification, worked mainly in PS's Camera Raw filter. I increased colour temperature and saturation a bit, tweaked light and contrast, and also added +10% on the Texture, Clarity and Dehaze sliders. I think the Dehaze adjustment is the most important, it helps to see through slightly murky water. Then a Levels adjustment, and a bit of local work on the ray and the other fish. See what you think.

There is what looks like a white halo round the ray but I think it's genuinely a white edge to the fins.
Yebach 12 Slovenia
26 Jul 2021 12:34PM
I uploaded the original photo.

pamelajean Plus
15 1.6k 2238 United Kingdom
26 Jul 2021 12:53PM
Here in the Critique Gallery, we may praise your images and think they are quite special, but our main priority is to help you in some way, perhaps in a way that you have requested, or perhaps about something we can suggest might be improved upon. If this is not what you want, then I suggest you do not click on the "critique wanted" option when uploading, and your picture will go into the main Photo Gallery only, where you can garner votes and even awards.

However, we wanted to help you in your last upload in the CG by seeing the original image, which you told us you had uploaded, but which we could not see. Now you have submitted a very similar image that you have again done some work on, and for which we would require to see the original before critiquing in any positive way.
You can use the blue Modifications button beneath your picture and follow the instructions for uploading your original.


PS: Sorry, you must have been uploading the original while I was typing this. Thank you.
PPS: I think Moira has done a great modification.
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
26 Jul 2021 1:26PM
I did a version of it in an attempt to find its colours, uploaded as mod 3.

Interesting and different subject.

Firstly, I have never been sea water diving, so having to 'guess' at how the floor reef would look lit. Processed this and have adjusted various colour values, images I see of British Rays show light coloured silvery discs not blue, and skin colour is browny green. It has also reduced the reds to make more silvery the other fish/eel skin. If you did the dive, you will know how good or bad this is (I would be interested to know) but figured would take a try at doing a rendition.
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.0k 2465 United Kingdom
26 Jul 2021 1:51PM
I think this may be the species.
ctxuk 12 18 3 England
26 Jul 2021 2:08PM
Ah, I checked UK species figuring with covid travel restrictions it would be one of them. Makes more sense as I wondered about the Coral, but figure it may accumulate anywhere in the world.
banehawi Plus
17 2.6k 4274 Canada
26 Jul 2021 2:24PM

There are quite a few tutorials on Youtube about colour correcting underwater photos in Lightroom.
Whats most important is that since only you really know whats actually white or grey, that you use the White Balance dropper in RAW adjustments to select that reference, and then adjust from there.

Its also important to get exposure correct in post processing, this is underexposed, and exposure interacts with WB so you may have to adjust both to get the image looking right.

This particular one is difficult, as the ray is kicking up some sand, so its cloudy, and perhaps the housing itself might be introducing a colour cast. I wonder if you are using any filters on the lens, or the housing?? The kit lens that comes with the camera also has limitation in optical performance and colour fringing, though its not terrible.

Ive tried to approach the mod Ive uploaded using this approach, and Ive added a link to one of the many videos.

Hope this helps,


dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1884 England
26 Jul 2021 4:27PM
It's a really difficult question... Only you were there, and know how it looked at the time. Anything else will be a matter of our preferences or prejudices.

I think you've done a good job: my attempt, using AWB in the Adobe RAW converter and some guesswork seems far less good.

And given that you're based in Slovenia, what species you have access to, and local conditions may be very different from ours in the UK.
pablophotographer 10 1.9k 414
26 Jul 2021 4:37PM

I shall express you my thoughts as I used to dive a lot in my younger years. Sea water is clear like tap water. Never, please never treat it as tap water and out of context in your underwater photography.

Sea water is blue or green or something in between during daytime. No painter would paint their boats in see through colour free water when they paint seascape paintings. It would be absurd.
Sea water in most circumstances takes the colour of the sky. If an "expert" uses white balance to take the natural blue/green tint out of the sea water and makes the seabed sand nearly as white as washing powder as if she dives in a tap water pool just remind yourself to sip some of the stuff before you dive. If it's salty it's sea.

Or visit a library and get hold of the books by the famous Jacques Yves Cousteau, Captain, and deep sea diver and Explorer,


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