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Can You Help

By achieverswales
Many thanks from everyone for the comments and votes yesterday. A problem that I have experienced before is happening again, the first image is not the right colour to what I saw when the photo was taken but there is such a difference, I upload to EPZ by using the save to web function, the problem I have is that if I save as the colours come out muted see V2 there is a difference in colour, when I save as I save in 16 bit JPEG, colour mode RGB and colour profile ProPhoto, this is the specifications the site wants, so not sure what is happening, if any one has any ideas of how to rectify this I would be grateful.

Tags: Snowdonia Llanberis Landscape and travel

Voters: richmowil, Jocelia, tonyguitar and 28 more

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richmowil Plus
8 321 2 England
13 Oct 2013 12:22AM
Strange effect on this fine composition!! I don't know why this happens - sorry!!

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Jocelia 6 2 1 Australia
13 Oct 2013 12:46AM
This is different Trevor even though it is a fluke.
Lovely landscape and variation. WinkWink
tonyguitar 5 61 35 Canada
13 Oct 2013 12:50AM
Bless your good luck. I am a fair judge of art and here you have both an
artwork and a well composed document of a pleasing scene. You can fine tune
the document image in many ways so not really a problem. A pleasing image
in both forms. TG
Trev_B 10 151 68 England
13 Oct 2013 1:06AM
Hi Trev... I had a problem using Prophoto RGB where a couple members were telling me that the images looked lacking in colour, do you remember as you mentioned it to me and I said they looked ok? Anyhow mate your V2 looks ok to me. When I was digging around I found that some browsers don't like Prophoto RGB firefox was one of the browsers. There is quite allot in the forums about this, try searching Prophoto RGB. V1 is a puzzle though.

Best of luck.
13 Oct 2013 1:38AM
Hi Trev,

I resize mine in photoshop, image/image size, so don't use the save for web function.
I have my camera set to RGB so I convert to profile in photoshop before uploading to the web, edit/convert to profile and choose sRGB.
Mine are 8 bit JPEGs, as far as I know it's not possible to save as a 16 bit JPEG as the format doesn't support 16 bit.
I save as Tiffs after RAW conversion.
I haven't used the Prophoto file format myself yet.
Hope this helps as I have no colour issues using my method.

Hermanus 5 4 South Africa
13 Oct 2013 4:23AM
As you know I am technically disadvantaged Trev - I just know I like the view you captured so well SmileGrin
CarolG Plus
10 199 20 Greece
13 Oct 2013 6:01AM

Quote:As you know I am technically disadvantaged Trev - I just know I like the view you captured so well SmileGrin

Me too, Trev, wouldn't have a clue, I'm afraid. Carol
Mollycat Plus
4 11 2 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2013 7:20AM
Trev. As you know, technically I'm a numbskull, but as a landscape V2 is as it should be. Peter.
netta1234 5 382 2 Wales
13 Oct 2013 8:26AM

Quote:As you know I am technically disadvantaged Trev - I just know I like the view you captured so well SmileGrin

Sorry cant help you here TrevSmileBut hope someone willSmile
13 Oct 2013 8:36AM
I can't help regarding the colours, Trev - I don't usually do the save for web function but,
I have experienced difficulties sometimes - usually regarding the size of the image you see on EPZ.
I do know that I like your images, though.

NDODS 7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2013 8:54AM
I think you have been given the answer you were looking for.

Image two is quite spectacular Trevor, a beautiful and dramatic landscape...

Regards Nathan GrinGrinGrin
widtink 5 406 2 Scotland
13 Oct 2013 9:18AM
V2 is a lovely composition Smile

franken Plus
15 4.3k 4 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2013 10:38AM
Sorry, I can't help Trev. Version 2 is lovely.

ZoeKemp 4 31 England
13 Oct 2013 10:56AM
V1 for me. The pinky colours add to the photo and make it look like a painting Smile love the creativity Smile
13 Oct 2013 11:15AM
try it the way Geoff says his answer seems very plausible Trevor, thinking back you had an issue with this before or something similar which was that your picture output was being corrupted ic the pink one was done in light room and the v2 in photoshop maybe the light room output is being corrupted try uninstalling it and then reinstall like Geoff I upload in sRGB.
anyway good luck its frustrating for sure, fine composition and gets the vote

Irishkate Plus
7 41 111 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2013 11:34AM
A lovely landscape Trevotr which does look more natural in V2.
Banehawi gave advice to Nigeve1 probably about a month ago.
I know it was suggested you use sRGB from profiles.
The rest of it is beyond my understanding but banehawi is the man to ask.
Rende 10 38 4 Netherlands
13 Oct 2013 11:39AM
Fortunately it doesn't mess up the composition which is excellent Smile
I generally upload the full sized JPEG and let the site's software deal with it; it generally does a good job.
TrevBatWCC Plus
9 12 11 England
13 Oct 2013 4:52PM
Mmmm...not sure about this problem. I use sRGB throughout and save my processed Raw file as 8 bit - if I use 16 bit, many of the menu items are greyed out in my Elements Editor. I have however just tried saving a 16 bit processed Raw file, without any tweaking in the menu items, using the 'Save To Web' option, which I always use when uploading to EPZ, and it looks the same as when I started out, so don't know how you've managed this! Must be something in the profiles somewhere along the line Sad
Anyway, do love the scene you've captured, and looks good in V2 Smile
Trev Smile
saeidNL 7 3 Netherlands
13 Oct 2013 6:19PM
Fantastic and great image,V2 is my favorite,
LynneJoyce Plus
9 20 99 United Kingdom
13 Oct 2013 6:34PM
Clueless about the technical problem but love version 2.
13 Oct 2013 6:47PM
i know you say the colours are wrong but i quite like it ! although v2 is more accurate in your opinion both are great in there own right
sorry cannot help with the problem

V2 for me...

achieverswales 7 8 101 Wales
13 Oct 2013 8:38PM
Thanks everyone I have followed Geoff's advice and things now seem OK.


Glostopcat 11 255 2 England
13 Oct 2013 8:38PM
I've no idea what has occured here unfortunately
14 Oct 2013 8:31AM
V2 looks fine to me Trev.
As far as I'm aware epz and most websites use the sRGB colour space, which is what you get when you use the "save for web" function.
I edit them in pro-photo colour space, save as Tiff, reduce the size to ~1200 pixels max on one side and then use the save for web function, adjusting the blur amount to suit and using either usually bicubic but sometimes bicubic sharper.
I then use the preview in Browser function and if it's OK, Save.
Whilst the images may not be materpieces the jpg usually looks, basically, the same colour as the tiff.
Upload and EPZ takes care of the rest.
Hope this helps,

14 Oct 2013 10:06PM
Unfortunately I can not help you in solving of this problem, Trev ... I take only JPEG pictures... alasSad
But I like the color's variant hereSmile
Regards Valery
Chinga Plus
6 3 1 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2013 6:20AM
Beautiful place! This is simple and sweet, heartfelt and luscious. V2 looks amazing (and green!)
What looks so easy often is not. Can't help with the technical... But Pink is not your colour Trev! Grin
annettep38 Plus
6 218 40 Costa Rica
18 Oct 2013 3:51PM
v2 for me and I think Alan is right. But the for instance today's bird looks fine here, on Francis' Windows it looks black. Go figureSad
If any, it's V2 for me. Great PF you have here. Some really great shots !!!!GrinGrinGrin


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