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Carls Wark

By Gavin_Duxbury    
Carls Wark Iron Age Fort in Derbyshire taken from Burbage Brook.

Tags: Snow Derbyshire Fort Hill Iron age Landscape and travel Burbage brook Carls wark

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Grampy 11 507 71 England
18 Dec 2010 4:22PM
I suppose the first thing is the light; it is lacking in any direction a shot like this must be shot either early in the morning or in evening, with the sun on the right or left , I would guess this was shot during the day when the sun was high
Have a good Christmas
Eviscera 15 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
18 Dec 2010 5:02PM
Landscapes dont always need sky , let the light infer the contrast.

Agree with grampy that its pretty non-directional , so maybe same scene , tighter zoom and later in the golden hour would have set this scene apart.
18 Dec 2010 5:58PM
Many thanks for the comments guys I realy appreciate it.

The original image was taken at lunchtime. I know the golden hour rule but I somehow went ahead. Anyway I have loaded a mod up but it is realy one taken at first light.

Comments please.


Davesumner 14 28 300 Australia
18 Dec 2010 11:15PM
Hi Gavin,

Phill has hit the nail on the head re the light in this shot and I think looking at your portfolio, you knew this when you uploaded it. It would have been helpful if you'd included this in your description when you uploaded it, just saves us all telling you what you already know.

Eviscera's mod is a good improvement, getting right in close has made an image out of the rocks and water but I guess you wanted to keep the fort in the shot as well.

I created a mod where I tried to bring out the rocks and water a bit more to make them stand out against the fairly flat hillside. I started by altering the white balance a little in Camera RAW and then in Photoshop desaturated the entire image about 50% and then painted the rocks area and sky back through the mask to reduce the power of the hillside. I then used Viveza 2 to add structure to the rocks and lighten the shadow underneath it. I then sharpened the image. It isn't a huge difference but it has lifted it a little.

Hope it helps

NEWMANP 13 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2010 12:34PM
i know this scene well, and i took the same shots this time last year,
the best light falls on there just after sunrise from over your right side.

it looks a millon miles from anywhere yet despite this viewpoint being close to the road, its a fair way from parking and few photographers take the trouble to go back, scramble over the style and take this lovely view.

its well framed particularly in the second upload but i think the exposure is a bit all over the place and needed a little more control or post processing, after all there is quite a large dynamic range. i feel a little balance with grads, combined with some underexposure to post process would have given you detail across the range.

there is a lso a litle issue with focusing, it should be possible from there to get everything totally sharp with a small enough aperature and a tripod. in V1 the foreground isnt sharp enough and in v2 its the wark itself thats a little soft.

its a little shame the sky was so bland, even a little cloud detail would have broken up the sky mass.

i do love this view though of Carl Wark. (why would anyone make a fortress in such an exposed place and totally overlooked by Higger Tor) makes you think. if you are fond of the place look at the dawn shadows cast by Carl wark racing across the moor on Solstice mornings viewed from up on Higger, its very memorable

NEWMANP 13 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2010 3:38PM
the exposure is fine on v1 by the way , i referred to the exposure and sky on V2

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