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Catrake force

By Bigpoolman
Edge of a waterfall in the Yorkshire Dales. Not really abstract but quite different. I liked the colours. Edited in LR and PS.

Tags: Winter Dales Swaledale Landscape and travel 2016 catrakeforce

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mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
25 Feb 2017 2:09PM
There's a lot that I really like in this. It does work as an abstract for me, in that it doesn't really give, or need, a sense of scale. The colour is gorgeous, warm earthy terracotta against the cold water. And you have used portrait format well, the lines flow down through the frame.

The negative for me is that the milky water effect works against the abstract lines, by softening them. I'm trying to imagine this with a faster shutter speed - not fast enough to freeze the water flow, but fast enough to give a better distinction between water surface and rock surface below it, on the left.

I also find the top slice a bit distracting, because it is nearer to 'real'. I've uploaded two mods. For the first I cropped tighter using your ratio - that takes off the 'real world' at the top, and a bit of the (for my taste) excessively milky water on the right. Then I made a Levels adjustment to boost darker and mid tones slightly, and used the burn tool very gently on the main lines flowing down through the frame, to give a greater sense of material structure.

Then a b&w worked in Nik Silver Efex Pro - a small plus on the Structure slider, some added contrast and a bit of Burn edges.

I like the way you look beyond the obvious...
paulbroad 13 131 1293 United Kingdom
25 Feb 2017 2:33PM
The tones and quality are first rate, but it otherwise falls into the very broad milky water theme to me and, like Swans, I seem to see a lot of them. So, well done, but the content does not hold my interest.

dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
26 Feb 2017 10:17AM
I looked at this yesterday, and wasn't sure what to make of it. Today, reading Moira's comments has helped quite a bit.

As a 'real' picture, it's tilted: cropping down to the purely abstract makes this irrelevant. I actually want to crop more than Moira did.

Paul doesn't like 'white' water, and it is a bit of a Marmite thing. The crucial thing, which Moira touches on, is that there is a good range of effects to be had by experimenting iwth shutter speeds. A little blur, a lot, or even frozen water... Try them all, and see what works best for each situation and the emotions that the location engenders in you.
26 Feb 2017 5:21PM
Thanks all. As usual a few thoughts for me to try when I am next over in Swaledale.

But in the meantime:
I can't believe that I didn't see the tilt in the picture, so thanks John for pointing it out. I do like the crops so, even though its irrelevant, I've sorted out the tilt but in doing so have actually changed the perspective quite a bit and gone quite a bit tighter.
I think that this has the effect of distracting your eye from the dreaded white water and made the diagonals a bit stronger??
Its each to their own and we all have our pet dislikes (HDR in my case) and I quite like a bit of milky water. However it is a tad too much so I think the mod helps.


paulbroad 13 131 1293 United Kingdom
26 Feb 2017 5:47PM
Not white water, John, milky water. I think it is heavily over done and thus images using the technique need to have something extra to lift them from the bulk. Comes from years of judging, and the same applies to Swans, Lincoln Cathedral west front, sunsets and the Humber bridge in my area - seen them so any times.

It's not really fair of me, but it is a subjective thing and, should anyone be entering competitions, part of the trick to make judges look at your work is to be a bit original in composition and content.

dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
27 Feb 2017 7:22PM
Sorry, Paul. I stand corrected - possibly up to my waist in (chilly) milky water...

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