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Cobb Gate, Lyme Regis

By starckimages
Liked the shadows from the ad-signs on the railings, in this low-level shot and the parked truck provided handy framing for the lamp shadow. There is a fair amount of sky, but didn't want to crop and lose the upper railings etc.

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bliba Plus
14 2 Austria
23 Jul 2018 9:17AM
lke this a lot ...excellent street photographay ..mono suits perfectly
paulbroad 12 131 1288 United Kingdom
23 Jul 2018 4:14PM
This shows excellent technique, but I would crop to letterbox without doubt. The top railings have nothing to do with the composition and should not be drawing the eye. They are right on the edge of the image. The two figures bang in the middle are the focal point, thus I would be cropping some from the left, again not needed, to move the figures towards the left.

mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.9k 2166 United Kingdom
23 Jul 2018 5:43PM
My sort of subject. I love the timing for the figures, the raised feet give an animated feel to the whole frame.

Wide angle plus low viewpoint is a combination that I enjoy, it gives the viewer a very physical 'being there' feeling. But it has risks. Notably the area of interest can be lost in the midst of a great expanse of empty sky / wall. I think you risk that here. The interest in the image is concentrated in the lower right section, and the left side of the frame is a bit too messy to provide a clear lead-in towards it.

We all become emotionally involved in our images, often placing disproportionate importance on individual areas or details. I see that you particularly wanted to keep the railings top left - on opening the upload I didn't actually notice them until I read your description, and I don't think they add anything. Neither does the expanse of wall on the left, or the sky.

I'd like to move the camera just a few cm higher, in order to reduce the effect of wide angle on the relative heights of the notice board on the wall and the more distant lamp stand. Then crop tighter. I've tried to replicate that slight change in camera height in the modification.

There are other crops available. I reckon that the closer you go into that lower right section the more interesting it gets!

The crop does also reveal some rather blotchy banding in the sky, that's always the risk of a plain blue sky converted to high contrast b&w.
23 Jul 2018 6:08PM
Hi there. Just checked out your mod and I accept the point about losing top railings. But I feel some sign shadows lost as well as distance between camera and figures. Think that gap's important? Seems to lend a bit of atmosphere? Thx
dudler Plus
16 1.1k 1599 England
23 Jul 2018 6:51PM
I like this a lot, for various reasons. There are a number of different things in it, and I'd have to do a picture of hte shadows that Moira has excluded from her mod, on their own. It looks like a person's shadow, not a lamp...

It looks as if it was shot in the hot waeather, but this was a sunny day in February... Yes... Some people are stil lwearing coats, even now.

We each see different things in a situation. Moira loves people and quirky detail: I love designs, and quirky detail. And so we each balance things differently, in terms of excluding other stuff. Often, too many subjects within one frame confuse the eye, unless you offer a way to follow a flow across the frame, as Colin Prior does in his panoramic landscapes. So, sometimes, less is more.

A technical and personal question - you have shot with an awful lot of kit, soem of which is very costly (Leica CL today - and it's not the cheaper Seventies rangefinder, either...) but to date, I think you've always shot on Program mode. That's unusual - are you trying out cameras from a friendly dealer? And, crucially, what are you looking for from the Critique Team?
23 Jul 2018 7:29PM
Hi John

No - the cameras I have used were all mine at the time of shooting. The Leica CL has gone (but still have the lens for sale!!) All I have left is the K1 - because its great !, The GH5 because it lets me cheat on the odd occasion and select images from video, and the Sigma Quattro because its IQ is amazing. (Will be selling the Sigma too). Program Mode gives me the results I want unless I really want to try out some varations on f stops. I'm not particularly technical and am self-taught. As regards what I want from Critique team - same as everyone else, if they are honest, - PRAISE ! We all want you guys to say well this is perfection mate - can't really suggest any improvements. And encouragement. But in the real world it's free advice on composition, things like white balance plus other stuff I might never have thought of. Have certainly picked up hints from the team already for which I'm grateful. Mind if I bat it back to you and ask the Critique Team's credentials? Don't think it states anywhere on site who you are and what you do - i.e. prof photographers or highly evolved amateurs? Thx
mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.9k 2166 United Kingdom
23 Jul 2018 8:06PM
Like john, I think I'd be looking for a composition featuring that shadow on the left, but like him I'm not really sure what has caused it. It does look a bit like a very skinny Daffy Duck, stalking the couple... So yes, there's a good case for keeping it. My instinct is generally to simplify, to reduce the number of elements in an image all competing for the viewer's attention.

There's a page about us all here. It's under The Team, see the very bottom of this page. We're a mixed bunch, and whether any of us is highly evolved is perhaps questionable! We are on the Critique Team by invitation from the site, and we are all volunteers.
paulbroad 12 131 1288 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2018 10:03AM
Credentials should not matter. Experience, I suppose, is a credential though, and that is what matters. I've been at this game over 50 years, professionally trained as an industrial photographer as part of my Metallurgy degree, service to the PAGB as judge and lecturer for many years, 10 years as a reasonably successful freelance after taking early retirement and supplying 4 libraries.

But still learning.

Technique is paramount over content in my opinion. Then composition and content, despite 'rules' is personal.

Every comment is opinion.

dudler Plus
16 1.1k 1599 England
24 Jul 2018 11:57AM
Hi, Paul -

Thank you for your detailed reply!

CT credentials - basically, we are happy to do this, and have varying backgrounds, although I think most of us are amateurs with a lot of experience. New members of the team are approved by the existing team, and the site management. Obviously, there's a need for photographic experience and knowledge, and it's important that we are articulate in writing.

I think, on the whole, we aren't club members, or particularly interested in competitions. And a further qualification, which i only became aware of a year or two into being a CT member - a willingness to accept that others can be better at making pictures than we are, including a few who arrive in the CG as new starters, and develop rapidly and wonderfully.

And it always helps that it is easier to see the mote in another's eye than the plank in one's own, of course...
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4094 Canada
24 Jul 2018 1:36PM
Do you have the original shot before processing that you could upload as your own mod? Click modifications, then upload, etc.

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