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Colour correction?

By dudler
From St Edward's Church, in Leek, and my day out with the Woollybills.

You can see a picture of my Dad below and to the right of this window, in the Rogues' Gallery of former vicars.

Now, here's a challenge for the technically-inclined. What's the correct white balance here? This reminds me of the Cokin colour correction filters I think I still have somewhere...

Tags: Church Architecture Leek Silly Sunday St Edward the Confessor colour correction filters

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dark_lord Plus
16 2.5k 635 England
17 Apr 2016 8:20PM
Looks like a large version of a Colourchecker Passport Smile

You can't set a 'correct' white balance from anywhere in this image as all the individual rectangles of glass have some sort of tint. Unless one is clear, which I doubt but even then whatever is behind it would have some colour.
You need to be outside and measure the colour temperature of the light illuminating the window. A shot of a white card pointing towards the light, then use that in LR or ACR.

I think Paul could go into more detail as he's mentioned colour temperature measurement before.

If you wanted to be accurate. If I knew it was cloudy, for example, I'd likely set 'Cloudy' in LR or ACR and be happy enough with that.
The exif says manually set white balance, so what did you choose?

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mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.9k 2168 United Kingdom
17 Apr 2016 9:10PM
You and Bill both saw the picture in this, I was too busy comparing your father's pate with yours...
We are looking at Bill's shot at the moment, I hope he'll add it here as a modification. It is much closer to the main upload than your modification, but has more contrast and more variety of colour, from yellow to cyan to magenta.
woolybill1 Plus
13 30 76 United Kingdom
17 Apr 2016 9:30PM
I couldn't help recognising the window, John.
Moira reckons my effort (added as a mod) has more yellows (a frequent observation on her part), and of course it's a detail rather than the entire window. More significantly, mine is of the left-hand, yours of the right-hand window.

Olympus OM-D EM1, Olympus 45mm/f1.8, 1/320th sec @ f5.6, ISO 200, AWB, RAW, converted in LR, cropped slightly in PS where the dead leaf has been dodged but otherwise I have done no significant work other than pulling in the outer ends of Levels a touch and increasing the contrast a little in Curves.

Overall I like the result I have achieved; I like your result equally: people perceive things differently, surely.
Moira agrees with my last comment but has switched off her laptop which was overheating again . . .

I don't pay a lot of attention to other people's EXIF unless there are significant flaws, but I have noticed in the past that the data given for my uploads sometimes reads WB Manual when it is nothing of the sort.

Hope this is of interest even if it doesn't exactly answer your question!
dudler Plus
16 1.1k 1603 England
17 Apr 2016 9:49PM
I tend to keep white balance set to daylight, in almost all conditions...

And I love both the mod Colin's done, and Bill's shot.

To be honest, the question was rather tongue in cheek. But the window really did remind me of CC filters - sadly, now, a thing of the past...
Joline Plus
13 30 56 United States
17 Apr 2016 11:35PM
I like the blue moodiness of your original. It seems about right to me. Bill's close-up is also interesting, but I like the whole picture.
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4095 Canada
17 Apr 2016 11:42PM
Theres no right answer. You are asking a question thats really irrelevant when measuring colour filtered light, and the right colour is the one that the colour of each individual window. Its like finding the right white balance for a red gel, or a blue gel on a studio light; you use what you see and you dont try to correct either red or blue.

Keith is probably on the right track when hes saying to measure the light illuminating the scene from the front; you set it to sunny, and my sense is that its close to right, BUT colour saturation also plays a part, as does exposure, and its something we dont know; if we compare to Bills, is more colourful, which may not necessarily due entirely to white balance. Its also quite a bit brighter.

I have to mention that I have come across numerous Sony images that have had the sunny preset selected that are quite blue (not this model, but APS-C models) so perhaps theres also a variation when it comes to presets.

The mod has saturation increased, slightly warmer (closer to shade) and also exposure.

barbarahirst 11 27 12 United Kingdom
18 Apr 2016 9:24AM
I just was struck with the quality of the glass in your image.....
not being into technology not quite sure what you are after
but love your original image...nuff said
kaybee 15 7.0k 26 Scotland
18 Apr 2016 2:20PM
Why would you want to colour correct it?
Surely it is one of the first in the Dudler Blue Period.
nonur 11 18 13 Turkey
20 Apr 2016 1:55AM
I love this.

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