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By mac
Fishing for crabs off our local pier

Tags: Children playing North berwick Crabbing Portraits and people

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pamelajean Plus
13 1.2k 2088 United Kingdom
5 Aug 2018 6:45PM
It's a good subject, Ian, nice and colourful, and engages the viewer in their crabbing.

I would like to have seen a higher camera angle so that the image didn't include the rather scrappy area beneath the wall, and did include a bit more of the background, that is being reflected in the water on the ground.

The girls may all be looking down, but when the viewer's eye is taken all the way down, it encounters an untidy bit of water, so I suggest excluding that area, and letting the viewer fill in the detail for himself.

I have tried to demonstrate this in my modification, but you will need to excuse my rather clumsy cloning of the yellow "thing" at the top.


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mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.6k 2078 United Kingdom
5 Aug 2018 9:26PM
It's a delightful capture, Pamela's modification tidies it up and cuts the distractions. It needs depth at the bottom of the frame (good move to use portrait format), but not quite as much depth as in the original. The viewer can imagine...

I'd prefer a bit less saturation on reds.
dark_lord Plus
15 2.3k 584 England
5 Aug 2018 9:37PM
I don't mind seeing the water. Without it, it has more intrigue as to what the activity might be, however,

The bigger distractiion for me is the yellow structure in the background.
It's a well captured moment so you had to tak it. But while the girls are absorbed in their activity it's a moment that lasts so in those situations think about a follow up image. moving to your left would have, I guess, allowed a less clumsy background. If you could move of course. You were there, there may have been limitations.
However, in these situations it's always worth looking around to see if qnd how you can improve on a shot, or position yourself in a good spot and wait for the ativity to unfold.

Mono is an alternative but Ithink it would remove the vibrancy of this scene.

mac Plus
17 1 Scotland
6 Aug 2018 12:51AM
Suggestion about moving to take picture was not so easy. The viewpoint was from a viewing platform above the jetty, so movement was a bit limited.
I would agree about the yellow structure. In mod 2 I have changed the yellow structure colour to a softer one and cut back on the redís.
I felt it probably needs more sea at the bottom with less pier. Anybody agree?
dudler Plus
16 926 1515 England
6 Aug 2018 8:42AM
This is distinctly overprocessed, again, for my taste.

Can we see the original, please?

It can be very difficult to get just the right angle for candids - that's part of the challenge. I would not want to see this cut any tighter above the girls - the headroom (literally!) already feels restricted.
mac Plus
17 1 Scotland
6 Aug 2018 12:15PM
Mod 3 is the original image
mac Plus
17 1 Scotland
6 Aug 2018 2:09PM
I originally was going to enter Mod 4. However after your comments I have re-worked it and changed the colour of the steelwork to a more neutral colour. Better???
dudler Plus
16 926 1515 England
6 Aug 2018 9:53PM
I like mod 4: it's fine as far as the subject goes - the wider crop still works. But it has a less processed look to it in terms of colours and contrasts.

My feeling is that the plus 1/3 exposure compensation was the wrong way, as the image is darker in overall tone rather than lighter, and hte original looks a little washed out.

Mod added, showing the sort of framing and tonality I'd have gone for with yrou roiginal crop.

As all of us have said before, Ian, you seem to enjoy hte processing part, and take a relatively rough image and polish it. Polishing is good - unless you're Boris Johnson - but it's not the aim, for most people.

And it's also fine to do the heavier processing thing, if you want - though it might be better played in the main gallery, where it will find soem approval, I think. There's an old saying in the NLP training community - if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got. To make the most of the Critique Team and Gallery, maybe something new?
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4031 Canada
7 Aug 2018 3:50PM
Your original image is by far the best with a small crop and left just as it it.
paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
8 Aug 2018 5:26PM
I am beginning to suspect your camera! a potentially fine shot but the colours and tones are not good as said above. That strange heavy flat effect again - almost HDR. You have now proved many times that you can get correct tones, so you must recognise that problem yourself from your images?


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