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Cryptic Burnished Brass

By Ade_Osman    
Well here's a hot potato for those that like their butterflies and moths as I do. This moth is what's known as a Cryptic Burnished Brass (Diachrysia stenochrysitis) and it's the first time I've ever captured one.
It causes quite a lot of controversy amongst UK enthusiasts of the Entomological and Natural History Society, because it's not as yet classified as a species separate from the ordinary Burnished Brass (Diachrysia chrysitis). It is almost 50 years since the suggestion was first made that an additional species may be present within the taxon Diachrysia chrysitis. Following a long investigation, the two species have been definitively distinguished by their morphology, differences in structure of the wings scales, electrophoresis and different male pheromones. So far as it is known, the two species have a similar distribution in Europe, including Britain, however a lot of Lepidopterists are still undecided and if you look in a lot of moth books relating to British species, it's not even listed????

As for me, well I can't be bothered with all the arguments and technicalities, I'm just pleased to have seen one, recorded it and get some shots of the little critter......I'll leave all the arguments to those with much superior knowledge of such issues Tongue

Perhaps that's why it's called a Cryptic because nobody really knows?.......Anyhow hope those interested in such things find this interesting.

Many thanks for all the comments on yesterday's image I posted and for the get well wishes. I have to see the Community Psychiatric Nurse & Doctor on Tuesday and all being well I get then green light to get back to some form of normality and be allowed out to play again Tongue In the meantime, I'll hopefully catch up with what everyone has been up to over the weekend.

Best regards to all.......Ade

Tags: General Lepidoptera Moths Flowers and plants Close-up and macro Digitally manipulated Wildlife and nature Cryptic Burnished Brass Diachrysia stenochrysitis

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DeSilver Plus
10 14 12 England
25 Aug 2012 11:47AM
V2 is the one for me but both are indeed very good. Smile


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KarenFB Plus
12 5.0k 171 England
25 Aug 2012 11:49AM
Beautifully caught and presented! Smile
RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
25 Aug 2012 11:57AM
Interesting narrative behind your shots, Ade, which as ever from you are of superb quality and immaculate detail.
If that's a lavender head then one can appreciate the moth's size so well.
Keep well and keep snapping.
annettep38 Plus
6 218 40 Costa Rica
25 Aug 2012 12:06PM
n0 2 for me , the peek a-boo pose is so nice.
the y are both great and I hope they mean you are feeling better
Ade_Osman 15 4.5k 36 England
25 Aug 2012 12:27PM

Quote:If that's a lavender head then one can appreciate the moth's size so well.

Cheers Ronnie, it is indeed a Lavender head as you state, although it was a small one, I suppose the moth itself was about 20mm long with a wingspan of approximately 32-35mm.

gary_d 10 576 13 Wales
25 Aug 2012 12:38PM
A very interesting and informative write up to accompany a great image here Ad, keep getting better mate. - gary
Glostopcat 12 255 2 England
25 Aug 2012 12:50PM
Two cracking close up captures of this cryptic critter caught on candid canon camera, you must be chuffed to bits to catch this rare species in one of your traps
achieverswales 7 8 101 Wales
25 Aug 2012 12:59PM
Two stunning captures Ade, right up there with your high standard, have to go for V2 for the cuteness factor, glad your feeling better mate!


bricurtis Plus
12 2.2k 49 England
25 Aug 2012 1:08PM
Love V1 Ade - it looks beautiful poised on that lavender. Top shot.
I can see why there is a lot of controversy over this species - in Manley's book there are Burnished Brass images that are so varied in colour you would think they were different species. !!
petebfrance 6 2.7k France
25 Aug 2012 1:24PM
Both lovely. I prefer No 1 as It shows the markings so well.

Silverzone 10 2 England
25 Aug 2012 2:23PM
V1 ticks all the boxes, as does your informative write-up. V2 shows him to have a convergent sqint and should be refered to an optition! Sylvia
9 10 10 England
25 Aug 2012 2:31PM
Being an ignoramus about these mothy matters I just look and admire - today I smile too at the squinty V2.
25 Aug 2012 2:59PM
Tack sharp and lovely saturated colours. Very informative pre-amble
NDODS 7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 3:09PM
Oh how very much I have missed your incredible images.

Regards Nathan
Jasper87 Plus
8 2.0k 150 England
25 Aug 2012 5:04PM
Lovely comical expression in v2, Ade. Two good captures whatever they decide it is

TonyDy Plus
9 10 3 United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 5:40PM
Absolutely stunning shots, Ade - as good a moth image as I have seen for a long time. Everything works well - colour, background, exposure and sharpness. Well done!
pamelajean Plus
12 1.1k 2015 United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 7:43PM
Thankyou for the informative write-up to accompany this unusual moth, and you must be very happy to have at last seen one. V2 is so captivating, it has to be my favourite.
AnnChown Plus
8 207 1 United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 8:12PM
Top notch! Not much else to say - it's just superb! Love it's face in v2 - it almost looks like a bird!
Maiwand 11 3 73 England
25 Aug 2012 8:23PM
Great shots with the usual most informative narrative Ade. In common with most folks I find V2 the most attractive.
rontear Plus
15 8 8 England
25 Aug 2012 9:15PM
Thanks Ade for your imput and good to hear your on the mend. Still getting those night visitorsWink I see !! Another beaut.
teocali Plus
10 441 18 England
25 Aug 2012 9:23PM
A pair of outstanding macro captures, Ade and both presented to perfection. V1 is stunning - love the detail, textures, tones and wing patterning of this little treasure. V2 has the "cute" factor, peering so coyly over the lavender flower! Great informative narrative too. Hope you are on the mend now Wink
carper123 Plus
6 1.1k 8 United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 9:30PM
Amazing images Ade, absolutely fantastic, the awards are well deserved, v2 for me awesome.
Ade_Osman 15 4.5k 36 England
25 Aug 2012 9:39PM
Cheers one and all......

Quote: Still getting those night visitors

Just wait till you see the videos of both the Hedgehogs & the Moths in the garden........Hoping to soon have both videos on YouTube and a live webcam up and running, just having one or two technical problems with it all and to be fair I haven't really been able to get my head around it recently due to my health.......But I'm now on the case, so watch this space for details as they say Smile

Special thanks to Silverzone, TonyDy & Teocali's UA, muchly appreciated as always.....

Chinga Plus
7 3 1 United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 11:48PM
Very pretty little fellow... Love the full facial on V2. IB
26 Aug 2012 5:23AM

Quote:Top notch! Not much else to say - it's just superb! Love it's face in v2 - it almost looks like a bird!

I'm with Ann on these two Ade! Sorry I'm late with this thought I'd posted & voted last night! Lou
jasonrwl Plus
8 1.1k 10 United Kingdom
26 Aug 2012 9:25AM
Very interesting indeed Ade - and of course a cracking image as always. Glad you are feeling better.
ChiliMan 11 135 17 Singapore
26 Aug 2012 1:37PM
First off, SERIOUS congrats on this first capture of this beaut, Ade SmileSmileSmileSmile

Second, both are fantastic shots but V1 is totally stellar. And the little fella is only 2cm long!

Loved reading the write-up, by the way.


PS Hope all goes well on Tuesday.
26 Aug 2012 8:53PM
I very much like V1.

Would be nice to get the issue resolved. At the moment I just note each form separately.

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