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By marcsneddon
Taken yesterday after a full day playing in the garden. It's rare to get a shot of Maisie as she is normally camera shy.

I am looking for critique around the framing and general look and mod of the piece.

Tags: Children Portraits and people


mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.8k 2142 United Kingdom
30 Jun 2019 10:22AM
This I like a lot! A young girl caught between childhood and womanhood, a strong and not necessarily conventional character... If you can persuade Maisie to cooperate more often she's a fabulous model!

I particularly like the fact that this breaks two rules, which I suspect she would appreciate too. Use of wide angle close up is not generally recommended for portraits because it creates distortion. Here the forehead is way out of proportion with the chin, but that works because it leads to the eyes. There's scope for cropping tighter at the top but I don't think it's necessary.

One disadvantage is that somehow wide angle has distorted the eyes, and her left eye (right to us) appears much larger. That's slightly weird...

The other rule it breaks is to avoid stray wisps of hair hanging over eyes, but I love the unruly, what-the-hell effect here.

Auto white balance has struggled a bit with her colouring, her red hair has given an orange cast to her skin. I've uploaded two modifications, for the first I cooled colour slightly, which I think gives a more natural skin tone. (I suspect that Willie will get a much better result there... ) I lifted shadows slightly and added a bit of brightness to the visible eye.

This reminds me a bit of Julia Margaret Cameron's portraits of young girls. So I added a sepia conversion, darker and grainier. It works for me.

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30 Jun 2019 10:28AM
Thanks for the critique. I really like your edits - the darker look is really nice and I am still learning. The B&W is nice - i showed Maisie and she loved both!

I did edit this heavily and will upload the original. I only have a camera phone at the moment (P30 Pro) but hopefully next week I am back in the game with a DSLR, or moreover the X-T2 just don't tell my wife the cost!
mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.8k 2142 United Kingdom
30 Jun 2019 10:39AM
Thanks for adding the original. I like a lot of what you did in processing, but the skin tone looks a lot better in the original. I have to go out but I suspect that other people will have a go here.

Glad that Maisie approves... Grin
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4083 Canada
30 Jun 2019 4:13PM
I think your modified version is very dark, underexposed, and extremely red.

It might be just what you wanted, however I personally wold suggest brighter and less red. Mod uploaded.

30 Jun 2019 5:45PM
Perfect thanks. This is the second picture i have edited where I have gone in too dark. Need to sort that out!!
30 Jun 2019 6:02PM
Reading the comments and looking at the mods I have to say that in my opinion Moira's b&w is the only version that offers a serious alternative to your first upload, which I think is quite outstanding, and which packs an emotional wallop missing from the proffered alternatives... even that otherwise excellent mono.
Some prize accuracy above all else, and that works for them. I don't. I prize emotional truth.
dark_lord Plus
15 2.4k 620 England
30 Jun 2019 8:51PM
You've done a good job with the image from your original capture.
If your daughter likes the mods, that's good gtoo but also means you have to keep up the standard, which I'm sure you will!

Did you edit the image on your phone or a computer as that may have had a bearing on colour and brightness. That's where serious photographers like to calibrate their monitor so they know exactly how any adjustments affect the image. Nothing a few tweaks couldn't fix here, though.
All the best for your choioce of camera.
30 Jun 2019 9:45PM
Hi dark_lord good point...I edit on my phone so i need to invest in a decent laptop or screen.
dudler Plus
16 1.0k 1572 England
2 Jul 2019 10:48AM
It's a beautiful, moody picture. Do prints, this week, and send them to everyone in the family!

I hope Maisie likes the picture. If she doesn't now, I think she will in 20 years' time.

Please repost in the main gallery!
paulbroad 12 131 1288 United Kingdom
2 Jul 2019 7:46PM
Mostly said above although I find the yes a touch dark for my taste. Editing seriously on phone will not give good results and, I fear, neither will a laptop with it's fixed none calibrated screen. I realise most people these days use laptops but they are NOT good editing machines unless a mouse, editing tablet and large external screen ae added.

I know the cost, but professional editors use desktops - many the very expensive but excellent MAC, and many a high spec windows machine. I use a modern fast desktop with 21 inch screen and Wacom tablet. 12 GB memory in the desktop to speed things up.

Depends how serous you feel the need to be.


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