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By Lakkou  
some days in the winter a depression takes us, we do not want to leave the bed and that black thoughts.

Did I used the light right?
Did I express the feeling of depression?

Tags: Depression Black and white Portraits and people

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mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.3k 2537 United Kingdom
12 Dec 2017 9:25AM
Yes I understand what you are trying to do, my hibernation instinct kicks in at this time of year. And full marks for trying to convey mood, the inner thoughts, rather than the surface.

The feeling is here, a couple of thoughts beyond that though. You ask about lighting - I would prefer to see a little more of the lower face, and to try to avoid the highlight on the nose.

Looking at this with exposure increased considerably, the head was resting against a patterned cushion, and that will have reduced your options for processing because this needs total simplicity. So next time a plain dark cushion...

Placement is everything in a mood image. I've cropped to square to place the face lower left - a more confined, claustrophobic feel. I also lightened very slightly, and toned down the shine on the nose.

Your settings are odd, I'm not sure why you selected them! This needed a larger aperture, no smaller than F8 focusing on the eye would be fine and I would probably start at F5.6. It didn't need 1/800 second, 1/160 would be fine. So you didn't need ISO 6400.

Go for the lowest ISO that will support appropriate setting, get a good quality image, you can then add grain in processing if you want to! (I often do).
Lakkou 4 Tunisia
12 Dec 2017 1:18PM
Thank you Moira, your advice are always constructive.
I took this shot last month and since then I'm working on it with lightroom I can stress on the feeling
I did not take care of the cushion which is a mistake as from the beginning my aim was to make a dark environment.
When I took this shot it was a sunny morning and was a lot of light even with windows closed, the only solution I found is that I use F18 and speed up the shutter to limit the entrance of light, once I got only a small shadow of the face I used the torch of a smartphone.
I will try another shot as per your recommendations in evening or a cloudy day.

your mod is awesome, it gives you more feelings that I like.

Thank you very much for the help you gave to me.

paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
12 Dec 2017 3:17PM
Moira really covers everything. You went a very long way round to achieve the effect and really didn't need to. Having said that, subjectively this is not my kind of thing. Whilst Moira's mod improves, I still struggle with the content.

banehawi Plus
18 2.7k 4315 Canada
12 Dec 2017 3:33PM
I think it can work better of you are higher in the frame, looking into a sea of darkness, as in my mod.

As someone who has struggled with depression for 40 years, - its feels more like it to me. I also modified the eye reflection to be solid rather than the existing shape.


dark_lord Plus
18 2.9k 825 England
12 Dec 2017 4:52PM
Moira has covered this. I like the positioning of the person in her mod, depression can make you feel small and pushed into a corner.
I'm just thinking about placing the person in the other corner, hemmed in and not able to look out, though maybe that's too depressing but sometimes people do feel like that.

Talking of hibernating, I was waiting for a bus in the Wirral last week and as the weather was grotty a fellow passenger said she wished she could hibernate for four months over the winter like some animals do!

We're all seeing this differently which is interesting in itself.
However, whaever way, this needs a Levels adjustment. I can understanding you want the feeling of darkness but we also need to be able to properly see the subject for the image to work, and get the attention of the viewer in the first place.
dudler Plus
19 1.9k 1947 England
13 Dec 2017 11:05AM
In bringht light, you can reduce the ISO setting, and avoid extreme apertures and shutter speeds.

Moira covers everythign else: I see, entirely, the value of having a mass of darkness above the face. That expresses how depression feels very well indeed. Moira's corp, putting the face in the bottom right corner, adds to the effect - marginalised, pushed aside...
Lakkou 4 Tunisia
16 Dec 2017 8:38AM
Hi All,

I'm sorry to answer a little bit late.

Thank you very much for your comments, I noticed that I should not use high ISO, I like the position of the face in your mods, you gave me very useful advice, I'm going to mak a second shot with the same theme and try to make it better.

Thank you a lot.


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