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differant day, another model, another lens

By ctxuk  
A follow on despite being a predescor in many ways.
Older camera, older lens ... at least the model is differant, and what a poseur.
Differing settings obviously, rather limited in this camera at least on its iso.
Once more that same glazing. No tripod and M. Lens is autofocus, but only 5 focus points to choose from.
Will post a couple of versions, one a non processed raw straight conversion Second another from the set i shot, only around ten.

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dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1868 England
2 Feb 2021 5:16PM
The SOOC shot gives me a clue on focus issues. With only five focus points, to focus on the eye, you need to focus and recompose... That action, reframing, may introduce a millimetre or two of difference. My strategy would be to use the central focus spot (often the most accurate anyway) and NOT recompose, but crop as needed.

You cropped as much as that would involve anyway, so remove one uncertainty from the chain. This will also remove delay between focus and exposure, which can again lead to movement by the subject, or by you.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2434 United Kingdom
2 Feb 2021 6:02PM
Lovely stance, and a good crop. And we are getting to understand the issues. Good advice from John regarding the AF points - the central point is likely to be the best, use it over the eye, get the shot immediately, and crop to get the composition afterwards.

My advice would still be - try using your tripod. But alternatively - can you try to tempt birds nearer to the window? Maybe move the bird feeder? The difference in light-gathering between the two ends of your lens is considerable.

But as I put on yesterday's - you are enjoying your photography, which is more than a lot of people are doing at the moment. Well done.
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4253 Canada
2 Feb 2021 8:10PM
I would use autofocus in this case, IF I had a large enough view in the finder to manually focus on the eye. Windows done open?
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4253 Canada
2 Feb 2021 8:56PM
Ive uploaded a mod. Another drawback you have with your setup is lack of dynamic range, where there are no true blacks, and some highlight detail is absent.

dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 778 England
2 Feb 2021 9:24PM
It's a good suggestion to use the one focus point and crop. Once you've got a few shots in the bag you can think about recomposing and tweaking focus if necessary as that'll be a useful addition to your arsenal of techniques.

The straight out of camera shot is very light and you could have gone one stop daker, using 1/250. I've darkened the image in my mod as well as warming the image as the original is cool in tone. I used the Burn tool to try and recove some feather detail in the neck but it wasn't completely successful and working on the RAW file may give more scope. Finally I converted to sRGB which is the recommended colour space for uploading here.

While the main image shows that with a momentary pause in movement a slower shuter speed can work, V2 shows that a vigourous activity such as feeding means higher shutter speeds will help get more keepers.
ctxuk Plus
12 7 2 England
2 Feb 2021 11:49PM
I have uploaded Version 3, a side by side comparative of the original submitted image and a version created with some camera model specific software in the development. This in response to the comment Willie made
Quote:there are no true blacks, and some highlight detail is absent.
. No flags showed in ACR on original image. Software increased dynamic range amongst other changes, output to tiff then finished processing in ACR.

Quote:I converted to sRGB which is the recommended colour space for uploading here.
its my S3 and I had checked the S5 files yesterday to ensure sRGB output from ACR, not sure why it altered for the S3. New version 3 is an sRGB file.

I prefer images that are processed darker than others from feedback recieved in the past. I avoid pushing everything right as a preferance preffering the contrast often found in a darker image.

Keeper rate is around what I expected really from not doing any birding in a long time. Muscle memory is a learned process and has to be practiced to keep consistant, its better than I expected. I expected far less good images with the S3 and this zoom lens than my S5 and 300mm prime but they seem almost the same. All shooting situation was an alike manner inc glass.
The S3 is noticeably slower during the shutter firing, harks back to the S602Zoom but not so bad thankfully, I never could get on with the one I have due to the shutter lag/firing experience. That does have an effect on keeper rate.

Thank you for the feedback so far, I am reading it just figured watch and wait before saying much.

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