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Dorothy & Timothy ... Gone Fishing

By Nick_w      

George missed his granddaughter Dorothy dearly ..

Part of the Nightmaresanddreamscapes series


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2 Cameras used
Olympus Pen EPL1 with 14-42 kit lens
Nikon D700 + 24-120 F4

Tags: Black and white Specialist and abstract Digitally manipulated Digital art Portraits and people

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BillyGoatGruff 10 191 199 England
30 Mar 2012 10:49AM
Fairly brilliant, Nick Smile

Great concept and execution

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SlowSong Plus
9 7.0k 30 England
30 Mar 2012 11:32AM
I'm puzzled by this Nick. I'm not sure what the fuzziness at the end of the fishing rod is supposed to be. It's obviously deliberate, but somehow it just doesn't suit. Perhaps I'm just being dense and I have followed the story, but what is your thinking behind this particular image?
Cheers, Chris Smile
Ezo 7 7 England
30 Mar 2012 11:35AM
Yeah, fantastic idea and well processed.

Fishing in a puddle, who'd have thought it, besides other things!
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
30 Mar 2012 12:09PM
Thanks Bill, Chris & Ant.

Chris, i'm to keep the story for the "viewer" to interpret, however the bit at the end of the fishing rod is a puddle (real one) 1000px doesnt really help with this one it looks much better at full size. I will send a PM explaining my thinking behind it.
SlowSong Plus
9 7.0k 30 England
30 Mar 2012 12:56PM
Thank you Nick. Smile
Richsr 10 91 223 England
30 Mar 2012 1:57PM
Like the concept Nick, well worked
Regards Richard
Daisymaye Plus
8 23 11 Canada
30 Mar 2012 2:02PM
An eerie quality about this. Well put together...........Sandy
chase Plus
12 1.1k 246 England
30 Mar 2012 5:50PM
Again,a good concept Nick & I like your thought process.
The puddle spoils this for me a tad tbh as it looks rather plastic & dropped on with no other 'bits of puddles' to help it fit into the image.
I do see a bit of banding top left....but that could be my new monotor not being quite right just yet.
I like the mistiness with Dorothy far far away.
Nice square crop which I think suits the image & certainly one for the mono treatment.
clintQB 6 51 United Kingdom
30 Mar 2012 6:45PM
Great composite....clever idea
SueEley 11 279 96 Wales
30 Mar 2012 7:19PM
Eviscera 11 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
30 Mar 2012 7:55PM
The impossible catch...

Do like the subliminal inference of her fading away from memories.

Would liked to have seen the rod raised or an additional element to suggest a connection between the two and complete the emotive.

At the moment , my eye is drawn to the scissors , which may be significant in your interpretation , but maybe to small a part of the scene to "lock" it down.

Imperfects like banding or shading , really dont spoil my enjoyment of conceptual art/photography unless its a distraction from the message.

Atb mate , wip Smile
30 Mar 2012 8:33PM
Wow. Even without the title and description, the sadness/melancholy comes through loud and clear. One of the best images I've seen at this site. Well done. =)
DaveU Plus
11 1.4k 125 England
30 Mar 2012 10:22PM
It's a fine continuation of the series Nick.

The composition I like very much plus of course the mood evoked. Silly but for me the best bit is the way that Georges's head cuts across the horizon line ... that really does add so much to the depth of the image.

The puddle doesn't work for me at all .... it doesn't look like water and the perspective seems a bit out to me.

Well worth sticking with though ........
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
31 Mar 2012 9:40AM
Thanks everyone. Ideally appreciate the feedback so thanks.

I will revisit this at a later date.

The fisherman was a grab shot so not much I could do re positioning of the rod (unfortunatly) tho there is one where he catches a fish but it's not sharp enough). I put the water in to give the rod something to go in- but does it need it (tbh I'm not convinced with the ploughed field).

The tackle box is as it was Dave, I wish I could be smug and say I'd thought of the scissors, but it was there - maybe subconsciously it's what drew me to it as a source image.

All the suggestions are helpful and I will mark accordingly. This DM adventure is certainly harder to achieve than my usual work - and takes much longer to achieve.

One thing I forgot to mention, the banding is interesting, its not there only main monitor- but is on my laptop so can't explain it.
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
31 Mar 2012 9:52AM
Just a thought, I may just use the source image of the fisherman and the lake he was on as the main bit with Dorothy rising from the lake... What do you think? ( it would make the masking much easier !!!!
DaveU Plus
11 1.4k 125 England
31 Mar 2012 10:42AM
Try it and put it up as a variant Nick .... if it improves the realism of the water then it must be a step in the right direction
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
31 Mar 2012 11:38AM
Just trying it now Dave will pop it up when done
DaveU Plus
11 1.4k 125 England
31 Mar 2012 1:52PM
A massive improvement for me Nick ...... you've simplified it by using the water instead of all those rocks and the slightly lower viewpoint works well too. The back of the jacket needs toning down as you say, plus you might want to play around with the exact location of the girl. Maybe bringing her down onto the horizon between water and cloud and moving her a little to the left would improve the composition. It's developing well though.
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
31 Mar 2012 2:36PM
Thanks Dave.. I marked the original comment as constructive ( as well as Chris's ) tho I didn't go green, don't know why. Oh well, I'll have a play and just finish it off tonight.
31 Mar 2012 5:33PM
Much prefer it with more water.
chase Plus
12 1.1k 246 England
31 Mar 2012 5:35PM
V2 is a solid improvement Nick,so much better,the whole image sits better & conveys the message in a stronger way.

Quote:bringing her down onto the horizon between water and cloud

Would be the finishing touch methinks.
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
31 Mar 2012 6:23PM
Thanks Andrew & Janet.

Yep its nearly there a couple of finishing touches and it will be back up in its own right.
Ezo 7 7 England
1 Apr 2012 2:14PM
Well done with V2 Nick,
excellent take on your original idea but I feel V1 is venturing more into the realms of surrealism as an image and certainly gets my brain matter going more than V2. For me the lake in V2 is what the brain would expect to see unlike the utter bizarreness of V1.

I'll just get my jacket!!!
Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
2 Apr 2012 9:06AM
Thank you Ant Smile

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