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Early spider shot

By charliejohn
Was looking through my pictures before I decided to go DSLR and though this typical of what I was doing with my Fuji Bridge camera. Going manual has taken the edge off me picture wise I think and will now get back on track.



Tags: Macro Spider Wildlife and nature Dof depth of field

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MaryFaith 6 59 New Zealand
6 Oct 2018 6:29AM
Nice macro - well done!
Mary
pamelajean Plus
14 1.4k 2156 United Kingdom
6 Oct 2018 1:13PM
There's nothing wrong with the image, Charlie, and remember that it's the photographer and not his equipment that makes an image.

So I have sought to simply make minor changes, as suggestions only.
I've done a modification where I firstly rotated anti-clockwise to put a stronger angle on the spider.
I then cropped to square, putting the spider on a thirds intersection, slightly adjusted contrast, and selectively sharpened the spider's head.

I like the inclusion of the web, and the sky background that shows the spider's outline nicely.
Your program mode gave you enough dof to get a lot of the spider in focus, but I question the need for negative exposure compensation. With the spider set against the bright sky, the normal thing to do would be to use some positive exposure compensation because the camera would underexpose the spider.

I cannot do better than quote something that Willie (banehawi) has said before:-
"You applied a -0.33 compensation, so I will guess that when you looked at the scene, it seemed bright to you, so you applied the exposure correction?
If it seemed bright to you, it also seemed bright to the camera's metering system, so this would have caused the camera, without any manual intervention, to tend to underexpose; then the -0.33 is added, to further underexpose. This is an important aspect of exposure to understand, and it may appear to be counter-intuitive, but when a scene is bright, you either apply no compensation, or, more often, apply a + compensation. For this a +0.33 would work better."


Pamela.
7 Oct 2018 12:07AM
HI Pamela,

You revision of the picture does give it a slightly more dramatic feel.

A question apart from overall composure of the picture are there any "rules" such as ratio or specific sizes I should follow. I have been cutting to suit the picture I want so far but when it comes to printing I usually have to play around a little bit to suit the frame or placement of the picture.

I am still getting experience with light compensations as I move more and more to manual settings.

Charlie
pamelajean Plus
14 1.4k 2156 United Kingdom
7 Oct 2018 3:13PM
Hi, Charlie.

No, there are no rules about sizes and ratios when cropping.
You are doing the right thing, cropping to suit the picture.
How you crop should be determined by the required final size of your image and what you want that image to say.
Remember to take a copy of your image before cropping it. You always want to keep a copy of the original just in case you need it again, or you aren’t happy with your crop!

However, yes, you are going to find that, if you want to print an image, there will be set ratios, so if you can get your original composed the way you'd like it printed, it will make things easier for you. But often when we shoot photos, we get so caught up in what we’re shooting (as we should be) that we often don’t think about how we’re composing the shots we take.
If you change the shape of your image, this could make printing more difficult, especially if you’re going to a photo lab which generally only prints in standard shapes and sizes.

Even the best photographers will often get back to their computers to view their photos and find that their composition is not ideal for one reason or another, and cropping is one option for fixing such problems.

As to Exposure Compensation, it won't have any effect when using a manual exposure.

Pamela.
pamelajean Plus
14 1.4k 2156 United Kingdom
7 Oct 2018 3:17PM
You have your private messaging disabled. If that's your intention, it's ok. If not, go to your Settings and change the option there.
I simply wanted to message you to thank you for giving my dahlias your User Award. I noticed that I am the first to receive one from you, so I feel very privileged.

Pamela.
7 Oct 2018 5:44PM
Hi Pamela,

Sorry to say I did not even know there was a way of communication other than this. I have been a distant member for a long time and had entered a few pics a long time ago. I was just looking in so to speak. No more though as I intend to take up the paid membership for year at least.

I have made the modifications and turned on private messaging always open for a chat and would love to know how you created "Ball Dahlia Duo". I have an idea how but would love to know how, Brandon is interested as well as he loves the shot as well.

Feel free to private message me and I should get back to you within a short time, if there are periods of quiet from my I am sorry. Sometimes I have a few days with vertigo and can not use a screen but as soon as it is over I will be back.

Charlie
capto Plus
8 6.4k 20 United Kingdom
7 Oct 2018 10:12PM
An excellent spider shot.Smile
ivor
pamelajean Plus
14 1.4k 2156 United Kingdom
7 Oct 2018 11:40PM
I've messaged you with the "secrets" of my flower picture.
dudler Plus
17 1.3k 1693 England
8 Oct 2018 8:40AM
Pamela's dealt with things very thoroughly.

I'll just expand on one point: although there are no absolute rules, there are guidelines that generally lead to an OK result... The challenge is to go beyond them, and explore the world! But for the less adventurous, the guidance can become a rule book, and this is often found in caemra clubs. Be wary of anyone telling you never to do something without a full explanation (and even then, you may find it's wrong!)
paulbroad 13 131 1289 United Kingdom
11 Oct 2018 8:07PM
This is very much better than many similar shots we see. Makes you wonder about a DSLR? You must use a DSLR properly, much more to think about than a bridge camera. Equipment does matter. If you don't have good quality gear, you will not get the best result.

A good photographer will get decent results from cheap gear. A poor photographer will get poor results from the best equipment.

Paul

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