EPZ RAW Challenge

By keithh  
Boyd gets about seven minutes of thinking time an hour - correct, the amount of Ad Breaks in Children's ITV - and on Friday he came up with an idea for a competition that he put to Pete. Pete said yes and all that remained WAS for them to enlist some gullible, easily led, mug photographer to give up into the public domain a full unexpigated RAW file - and I said yes.

So here's the deal. Download the full 15.5mb 1DsMKII RAW file from HERE and use it to come up with the perfect gallery print. Sort out its faults, enrich it, give it life and then post the 500 pixel version in the modified section - if you you think it would benefit from us seeing the 1000 pixel version then mail it to me at - keith.henson21[at]ntlworld.com - in EPZ file size.

If you haven't got RAW conversion software, you can download a free trial of Capture One from HERE

Judging on Friday:
Prizes: An ePHOTOzine badge or 50% discount for non e2 members and the other 50% paid for by me.
A further £10 off a Northscape course making a £50 EPZ discount.

Tags: Landscape Photoshop Epz Competition Raw General Mug Digitally manipulated Boyd Landscape and travel


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Comments


croberts 11 2.2k 8 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 8:04AM
should be interesting!

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mattmatic 12 598
15 Aug 2006 8:17AM
Cool idea Smile
I'm onto it, and should have something, assuming I have time :-(
Matt
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 8:18AM
cheeky monkey ......how long can it take to develop quality.
Wink
richardwheel 10 217 2 England
15 Aug 2006 8:22AM
I'm just blown away by the quality of your camera - makes mine look like a disposable one Sad
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 8:23AM
Bet mine has more dust spots
Wink
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 8:23AM
First competition I know of that makes you spend money to collect your prize.

Wink
richardwheel 10 217 2 England
15 Aug 2006 8:24AM
lol - I wouldn't be too sure. I recently changed lenses in a corn field - learn't a very useful lesson there.

BTW Good idea for the comp
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 8:25AM
Spend money, spend money????

I said -spend money?
richardwheel 10 217 2 England
15 Aug 2006 8:25AM
then again, just checked the sky - it is bad!
daviewat Plus
12 4.1k Scotland
15 Aug 2006 8:27AM
Feel a PC upgrade coming on, time to make a coffee have a shower, a fag and catch up on all the gossip from Big Brother just by the time PS opened it up :-((((((((((((
15 Aug 2006 8:27AM
Keith, how could you! What am I (and the other non-landscapers) supposed to do with this! I haven't a clue about making "perfect gallery prints" out of a picture of some fields.... goes off muttering in disgust wishing some tomatoes had gone up instead..... Smile
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 8:28AM
And there was me thinking that Boyd's Welsh scenery did look very much like the Roaches.

PMSL.

Norfscape discount - if you're an e2 member already then that means the only way to collect your prize is book on a workshop.

Wink
User_Removed 11 524 England
15 Aug 2006 8:30AM
Can you give us a link for the bovine plug in?
croberts 11 2.2k 8 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 8:37AM

Quote:Norfscape discount - if you're an e2 member already then that means the only way to collect your prize is book on a workshop.


not true, you could win a badge....
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 8:39AM
LOL....see Boyd

flippin eck, Ian...what do you want....OK...how about a free print of your choice - on art board from me interweb thingy?

and Lydia - stop clicking!!!!! start converting.
Wink
15 Aug 2006 8:41AM
The click was a mistake LOL.
Are major crops allowed?
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 8:43AM
you can do whatever you think it needs to be a winner other than add to it from another shot.

Two in already ........keep em coming
Pete Plus
14 18.8k 96 England
15 Aug 2006 8:46AM
It's just up as a bit of fun the prize is secondary.

But e2 can be used as an extension to the end of your existing membership expiry date.
User_Removed 11 524 England
15 Aug 2006 8:50AM
Any limit on the number of entries per person?
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 8:52AM
Nope....
and there you go...official...it's not only fun but worth a whole years e2 membership.

How can you not?
Wink

AND NOT JUDGED UNTIL FRIDAY...less haste more class.
Wink
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 8:53AM
Lol - It was a bit of tongue in cheek that comment about the prizes. Thought it was some covert method by Keith to suck in more money to the Henson estate.

Wink

And of course I was asking on behalf of the greater ePZ masses.
IanFlindt 11 740 21 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 9:04AM
A selfless gesture, Keith, and a great challenge - many thanks.

Trouble is, I now have to wait ten hours before I can get home and start work on creating a masterpiece. (I wish.)
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:06AM
plenty of time.

four in

and Ian....how very dare you....this image would have made it to the website.....until today.
Wink
boo hoo
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:27AM
some interesting versions coming in...I'll post my version on Friday with the results as well.
scottydog 11 206
15 Aug 2006 9:29AM
do you mind if I stick it in a frame and sell it Smile
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:32AM
Nope....
Wink
mattmatic 12 598
15 Aug 2006 9:40AM
And I thought my CCD was dirty!! :o)

Mine was completely stuffed by compression!! And now it looks a bit browny-orange. Hey ho, it was a ten minute job.

Thanks for this Keith - shows there's hope for us mere amateurs Wink
(I mean that good processing counts a lot - but I knew that already, just nice to confirm it. Stopping waffle.... Smile
Matt
paulstefan 11 509 1 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 9:42AM
It's a nice landscape but I'm really not sure about that strange looking border with that diagonal line in it . As there's no large version I can't really see what going on unfortunately.
So, not up to your usual high standard, Keith....






..what?



...oh, it's a screenshot...


Wink
conrad 11 10.9k 116
15 Aug 2006 9:47AM
I haven't been using RAW for long, but this looks like fun, I'm going to have a shot as soon I have the time and I'm working on my home computer again. Wink

Conrad
digicammad 12 22.0k 37 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 9:50AM
Well my efforts are in. Only subtle differences between the 3.

That 60k limit is a killer. :0(

Ian
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:50AM
no rush
LOL@Paul

14 entries....keep em rattling in
sut68 12 2.0k 76 England
15 Aug 2006 9:57AM
What lens was this with Keith??

It's interesting to see the original and how sharp it is in the centre, but has some detail 'fall-off' to the extremities of the frame.

Paul
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:59AM
info in EXIF bit it was the 16-35 and every lens on the planet falls off at the edge....for a wide angle the 16-35 is about one of the best.
Maddie 10 2.7k 2 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 10:00AM
should i embarass myself with an effort!
andrewjen 10 99 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 10:03AM
Hi Keith, Have played with options i never used before, excellent idea and a good learning morning for me. sure i sould be somewhere else? picking the wife up! oh well i'll blame you, i'm sure she'll understand.

Andy
sut68 12 2.0k 76 England
15 Aug 2006 10:05AM

Quote:... Info in EXIF ...

... so it is, silly me ... DOH!!!!
kaybee 11 4.6k 25 Scotland
15 Aug 2006 10:07AM
Is THATthe horizon everyone else is going to kick my butt over?

Roy
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 10:10AM
I take it you're the judge, jury and executioner, Mr H?

If so, best cancel my subscription to Acid Smarty Monthly.

Wink
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 10:13AM
why would we kick you over the horizon Roy....it'd be a damn good kick mind from there.

You're dead anyway, Ian.

oooops...shouldnt have said that.
Wink
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 10:19AM
Keep them coming....couple of potentials in there....and it made Scotty post a picture...not his, but it's a start!!!
Wink
scottydog 11 206
15 Aug 2006 10:26AM
i,m still in a huff Smile
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 10:27AM
LOL...what's wrong ..someone want discount already?
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 10:37AM
Didn't want to go on your smelly workshop anyway.

Tongue
Wink
Maddie 10 2.7k 2 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 10:39AM
i do!!
paulcr 11 1.5k 9 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 10:47AM
I have raw shoter essentials. When I try to download I get an icon and a message "Would oyu like to search the web for a programme to open it". Any ideas whats wrong.
PAul
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 10:52AM
Your version of RS is probably an old one in the days prior to the 1DsMKII files.

Adobe RAW will do them, as will Capture One and that trial of Adobe LR and Canon's own software of course.

I wouldn't have you on a workshop, Ian.........doh!!

Some good stuff coming in.
paulcr 11 1.5k 9 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 10:59AM
I can open it in Rs but with no thumbnail. Can't save it to disc....
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 11:05AM
Strange....any helpers out there???
paulcr 11 1.5k 9 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 11:11AM
Ok, opened in explorer, wouldn't open with firefox. Paul
Ewan 13 381 Scotland
15 Aug 2006 11:15AM
Where was the shot taken Keith?
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 11:23AM
On the heathland below The Roaches, Ewan.
John_Duckett 11 386 2 Norfolk Island
15 Aug 2006 11:36AM
Oh I must have a go at this when I get home tonight...

Can't beleive the amount of difference between some of the results.

John
paulcr 11 1.5k 9 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 11:42AM
Can we enter twice? Brilliant idea for a challenge, would make a great weekly competition. Paul
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
15 Aug 2006 11:44AM
Okay, I've downloaded the RAW file, processed it, added a mount and a frame and now it's on it's way to The Three Roofs Tea Rooms in Castleton (apparently they're desperate for some good prints). Best fifteen quid I've ever earned.
;o)

I'll have a go later, I just need to download some combi to go with it.

I agree with Paul. Brilliant idea.
:o)
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 11:47AM
enter at will , Paul

Thankfully the Three Roofs pay by BACS...so cheers.
Wink
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
15 Aug 2006 11:49AM
Doh!

;o)
thorn 11 124 2 Scotland
15 Aug 2006 11:50AM
Hi Keith,i've got probs with my computer just now and don't want to try downloading such a large amount plus i'd have to do the software.But at a later date i'd love to try it.Thankyou for letting us try this.Take care.AnnSmile
sut68 12 2.0k 76 England
15 Aug 2006 12:38PM
ROFLMAO @ Merls
annaliese 11 421 1 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 12:40PM
Was going to join in, but it took 20 mins to download 10% Sad so i'll have to pass!
User_Removed 10 4.9k England
15 Aug 2006 12:55PM
Just a file of Hieroglyphs, my computer cannot interpret. C1 LE doesn't recognise it either........ I give in. lol
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 1:00PM
20 minutes???.....mind you...West Country

Update yer LE, Col.
Wink
scottydog 11 206
15 Aug 2006 1:06PM
my latest mod ....invasion of the highland coos
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 1:13PM
I saw it....

......I bet it doesn't win.
Wink
User_Removed 10 4.9k England
15 Aug 2006 1:18PM
3.7.4 is what I got........ Think it's a Mac thing, probably needs a helper app to open it, which I haven't got.
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 1:22PM
Just a CR2 file you should be OK...it was uploaded from a Mac
scottydog 11 206
15 Aug 2006 1:23PM
I thought the judging was on friday. This is a fix LOL.

I want that badge badly. Andytvcams should be disqualified Smile. Look at the rules governing any competition and members of the company are excluded.

Do you something against all things Scottish.. the people and the coos?

How about if I put a pregnant ewe (english one) on top of the left coo and a big crow pecking at the udders of the other one... would that get me closer to the badge Smile
MikeH 11 217 4 England
15 Aug 2006 1:25PM
This is really good fun and a real eye opener to see so many variations on the theme, great idea Keith,
Mike
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 1:50PM
Now yer talking, Scotty.....but yes...and the Welsh......doh!!!

and Andy is just in it for the fun...can't you tell?
Wink

(coat on)

Boyd's idea, Mike
Centurion 11 1.2k England
15 Aug 2006 1:55PM
I thought adding objects was breaking the rules?
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 1:56PM
It is....I ignore them.
Wink
Anthony 14 5.6k 17 Scotland
15 Aug 2006 2:05PM
I'll be having a go at this tonight, got something special in mind too..... Smile

Anthony
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 2:22PM
where did CB get his RAW file??????
Wink
sut68 12 2.0k 76 England
15 Aug 2006 2:38PM

Quote:Where did CB get his RAW file??????

... don't know, but I hope he doesn't buy his clothes from there either Wink
Centurion 11 1.2k England
15 Aug 2006 3:00PM
I hope HDR attempts are within the rules Wink

Gav
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 3:02PM
Yup...no problem with layering..
paulcr 11 1.5k 9 Ireland
15 Aug 2006 3:30PM
Now see what you've gotten yourself into Keith, bet you weren't expecting this response. Just shows what a great idea it is. paul
fauxtography 10 6.6k 36
15 Aug 2006 3:41PM
Didn't want to clean your raw file keith so i went "muddy"... it took more time in the end :0(
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 3:41PM
I have just given a small 'gulp' and seen 74 entries to date!!
fauxtography 10 6.6k 36
15 Aug 2006 3:46PM
78, keep up Wink
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 4:11PM
Right...well done everyone so far....lets hope this feature will become a regular..in fact I know Pete is already on the case...although if it grows it'll need it's own website...LOL

back later when my eyes have calmed down.
Wink
beaniebabe 10 2.3k England
15 Aug 2006 4:12PM
Think it will be a hard job to Judge with all these entries Smile

Good luck Keith 83 and counting

Angie x
mattmatic 12 598
15 Aug 2006 4:23PM
Don't know how on earth you're going to judge this - but I've never seen so many variants from one file! :-|
Matt
stevieb 11 3.0k 2 Panama
15 Aug 2006 4:50PM
Another £10 off a Northscape dogging weekend....errrm I mean Course. Does that mean you're paying people to go now ? ;-D
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
15 Aug 2006 5:06PM
89?
89 entries plus all the 1000 pixie emails!

We've created a monster!
stevieb 11 3.0k 2 Panama
15 Aug 2006 5:13PM
Some of 'em are still downloading it since lunchtime too!!...Ah the beauty of broadband...34 seconds Smile
Pete Plus
14 18.8k 96 England
15 Aug 2006 5:22PM
Blimey, yes this is popular. I've had a word with Tom and we will do a few more first to see if they are as popular. If so we will build a special RAW competition area with a really cool feature that I've never seen on any other site. Keep them coming!
Maddie 10 2.7k 2 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 5:29PM
an excellent way to learn aswell, especially if we are told where we have gone wrong aswell, lol
annaliese 11 421 1 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 5:30PM
Stop showing off stevie lol mine took an hour!! Smile
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 6:00PM
The time is 19:00 and the 100 is in.!!!!!!!!!!!!



crikey

OMG I've been slightly Infraredded!!!
WinkThe Shame.
McKenzie 9 22 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 6:23PM
Very clever concept!

Steve
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 6:25PM
Urghhh, I've just uploaded my first attempt and it's puke.

I'll have another attempt tomorrow :o)
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 6:29PM
I could never scoff as Impartiality is my middle name....and as my first name is Sarcasm you have no idea how hard my silence is to hold.
Wink
martin.w Plus
13 388 22 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 7:12PM
Never mind Ian, I can't even download it properly!! Gives me more time to look though, some scarey stuff (and people) out there!!!
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
15 Aug 2006 7:12PM
Okay, I'm in.

Just for fun like.
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 7:13PM
cheeky
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 7:14PM
Well I blame the poor skills of the photographer. I mean I'm trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Wink

And your sensor is dirtier than an Amsterdam sex show.
stevieb 11 3.0k 2 Panama
15 Aug 2006 7:27PM
Is this a "Spot the difference" comp LOL!! ??
Deego 9 27
15 Aug 2006 7:33PM
why do my picture's of the Roaches never look that good :o)
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 7:34PM
Have you managed?

I love a dirty sensor.



Mine don't look this good normally either
Wink
;0
Westers 11 3.9k 1 Burkina Faso
15 Aug 2006 7:36PM
Not yet.

And attempt number 2 is about to go in the bin.
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 7:41PM
well a 119 entries to date have made this the most viewed image/page on EPZ ever....and with so many invoved in making it it's kinda fitting really
ian walker 11 716 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 8:25PM
thanks for letting us play.

would be interesting to see your version after all this Keith.
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:22PM
no problem.......but Oh mY God she can'na take it Boyd...she's gonna blow!!!!!!
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
15 Aug 2006 9:24PM
Who have you got in there with you?
;o)
IanA 12 3.0k 12 England
15 Aug 2006 9:28PM
And I thought MY sensors were dirty! lol

Ian
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
15 Aug 2006 9:37PM
Your wife.
Wink

well it's not dirty if like me you work to a wide screen format 90% of the time.
Wink

right...my head hurts.

I have two full days of food shooting...not easy hitting a chick pea with a 9mm, so judging will take place on Friday morning. Feel more than free to upload new and further entries and make the judging even more difficult.
There are few that stand out even now.

G'night you lot.
ade_mcfade 11 15.2k 216 England
15 Aug 2006 10:20PM
big file - give you that.....

just see if I can perform the "mcfade" effect and completely ruin it Smile

But it'll be recognisable of course!!!

Wink

good idea - does the winner get to go take their own RAW next week then?
CathyT 10 7.3k 18 United Kingdom
15 Aug 2006 10:46PM
Yes it was a big file , my poor little computer is having a good cough.

Well I've done 4, not really happy with the BW as I think the shots looks sooo much better in colour but hey ho......were we just supposed to do 1??

cathy
mattmatic 12 598
16 Aug 2006 4:03AM
Just tried this at 16-bit. Poor PC was gagging a little Smile

158 and counting...
GillyB Plus
10 317 8 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2006 7:06AM
Stuck with a dodgy internet connection in an Italian hotel - I don't think I dare try and download the original 8-(

gill
bricurtis Plus
10 2.0k 49 England
16 Aug 2006 10:00AM
Nice Gesture Mr H. Bloody huge file though.
Regard mine as a kind of 'Friday night fun type entry'.

Brian.
jeanie Plus
12 6.0k 6 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2006 12:04PM
170 entries? hmmm....you got a hell of a job making a choice on Friday : )
LAF 13 1.7k
16 Aug 2006 12:47PM
170? HA-ha!!!!!!!!!

Good job you have nothing better to do ;o)

Lee.
VinceJones 11 862 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2006 1:07PM
Keith, is adjusting the skyline (clouds) allowed?
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
16 Aug 2006 1:08PM
It is indeed, Vince


170??????
Oh
Mayfly 10 485 2 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2006 1:23PM
Any longer, any more entries and this is gonna be the worlds biggest spot the difference comp !

Good luck Keith.......
jimbo_t 12 959 England
16 Aug 2006 2:03PM
Just a quick question........if you took the raw data and say changed a 3 for a 2, what would happen to the image?
James
paulstefan 11 509 1 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2006 9:29PM
I quite liked this photo when I first saw it. But to be honest I'm flippin' sick of it now
Wink
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
16 Aug 2006 9:37PM
Me too.
starliz 11 1.6k 3 England
16 Aug 2006 9:42PM
just found 6 of them in my computer think its self multiplying and will soon take over....
andytvcams 13 10.4k United Kingdom
16 Aug 2006 9:50PM

Quote:Me too


And who's idea was it? Smile
keithh Plus
12 24.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
16 Aug 2006 10:16PM
That lad of mine - the second hand camera salesman from Pontypandy.

g'night
Boyd 12 11.2k 11 Wales
17 Aug 2006 5:48AM
Pantyfiddle actually.
martinl Plus
12 263 2 United Kingdom
17 Aug 2006 7:59AM
Nearly 200 now. One last push and were there!! Wonder if we could get to 250. Come on everyone! I'm sure the "judge" would like some more to have a look at!!
andytvcams 13 10.4k United Kingdom
17 Aug 2006 8:48AM
Keith.

When you upload your version can you do it showing how you achieved the final results?

so that others can compare yours to theirs.

Andy...
Kris_Dutson 13 8.2k 1 England
17 Aug 2006 10:07AM
Give away trade secrets? I take it you don't want to work for Northscape anymore then Andy.

Wink
jakabout 11 1.7k 1 United Kingdom
19 Aug 2006 6:44AM
Edit...found it :o)

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