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Fire Dragon

By meshklam
This was taken in Disney world Florida Parade 2017

Tags: Sky Photo journalism Parade

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JuBarney Plus
11 36 6 United Kingdom
8 Jun 2017 9:26PM
A lovely shot with terrific sky detail. I have tried a mod but I am only a novice at this.
banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4337 Canada
9 Jun 2017 1:43AM
The exif data is needed to allow a decent critique. Can you provide the shot data?
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.6k 2575 United Kingdom
9 Jun 2017 10:28AM
Yes, we need your Exif. Please don't use Save for web, because it strips the data from the file.
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1975 England
9 Jun 2017 11:53AM
As well as the EXIF data, it would be interesting to know if you processed this, and whether you are happy with the image as it stands: if not, why not?

Even without the EXIF data, I would guess that you use to small aperture because I can see dust spots in the sky. Did you intend the sky to look dark and threatening? In making it that way you have lost most of the detail in the dragon. Was that a positive artistic choice, or did it just happen?
Robert51 14 11 133 United Kingdom
9 Jun 2017 4:38PM
I really like the shot but you do need to see the dragon.

The mod I have brightened the image and cropped a little. Hope you like it.

pamelajean Plus
17 1.8k 2277 United Kingdom
9 Jun 2017 7:18PM
It's good to see you back in the Critique Gallery, Andrew.

This is a dramatic subject, set nicely against the sky, with the long plume of fire nicely captured. Considering that the dragon was in a parade and p;robably moving, you achieved good detail.

When you shoot a subject against a bright sky, your subject will be dark, and so it's a good idea to dial in some positive exposure compensation.
Both modifications have brightened the dragon in order to see the interesting detail in it.
Robert has excluded the little bit in the bottom right corner, which only acts as a distraction because the viewer wonders if it's part of the dragon or something like a mountain in the background.

meshklam 18 3 England
9 Jun 2017 8:24PM
Canon eos 1100D
focal length 55mm
no flash

tried to darken sky in photoshop
meshklam 18 3 England
9 Jun 2017 8:26PM
thanks for your comments really appreciated and modifications look great
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.6k 2575 United Kingdom
10 Jun 2017 9:02AM
Thanks for the Exif.

Quote:tried to darken sky in photoshop

But did you just darken the sky, or the whole image? The sky is too dark, and you have lost almost all detail in the dragon which is surely the important bit. When processing, you need to look at your list of priorities. Here I would say, get the dragon right, then the fire. The sky is the least important element, it's background. Though a bit of drama is complementary to the subject.

This is a subject that presents three problems regarding exposure:

Photographing into the sky will trick the camera into underexposing on the actual subject;

The actual subject is very dark, and in shadow;

Fire is always tricky!

It would be useful if we could see the original. My inclination here would be to go for a +1 stop exposure compensation, and then work with the dodge and burn tools to get some sense of substance into both the dragon and the fire.
meshklam 18 3 England
11 Jun 2017 4:55PM
ok thanks I will have another go with it

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