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Fledgling robin

By HelenT4
Taken using a tripod, the light was flat grey. I am tryimg to take better photos so all advice is appreciated, I have taken this up again after a few years break.

Tags: Wildlife and nature

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User_Removed 8 48 1 United Kingdom
24 May 2012 10:37AM
Nice image, lovely BG, i would try reducing the ISO a bit to cut down on the noise.

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Sooty_1 7 1.5k 221 United Kingdom
24 May 2012 11:17AM
You've done almost everything right here, there are a couple of points to look at though.
1. It isn't critically sharp, which is a shame as the plumage is crying out for sharpness. It might be that at the wide open aperture you used, the lens' performance is not as good as it is stopped down a couple of stops, and the dull light (while good for revealing fine detail) has necessitated using a wider aperture to keep the shutter speed up. The other thing could be a small amount of movement of the bird lowering the absolute sharpness.
2. The double pole in the background (I presume it's a gate or some garden furniture) cutting right through the bird is a big distraction - the equivalent of having a pole growing out of a person's head.

The noise would not be a problem if the rest was sharp, though if you had Lightroom (or Noise Ninja for instance), you could get rid of a lot of the noise easily. The pic is quite low contrast as is, so could bear a little more sharpening and curves adjustment. If trying this again, a little blip of flash might help lift the detail - but dial in negative flash compensation (not overall exposure compensation) to make it act as fill-in and not the main illumination.

Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
24 May 2012 11:26AM
Hi Helen,
I like this. Even covered in fluff, it's still obviously a Robin.
I think that the biggest problem with this is that it's oversaturated. Initially, I thought that there was too much yellow, in other words, a cast.
But by using the saturation tool on various colours, I found that I got the best result by simply reducing the overall saturation, using the master.
Also, the bird's very central in the shot so, using the content aware tool, I've (rather poorly) added some canvas to the RHS.
That didn't turn out quite as I'd intended but hopefully, you'll get the idea!
Even using a tripod, this looks a little soft, although I'm inclined to think that, at least some, of that softness has occurred during the upload.
Either way, I've sharpened it.
I see that you add a logo to your shots.
Personally, provided they don't obscure half of the image, I have no problem with them but someone will probably tell you to remove it.
Whether or not you use one is entirely up to you. It's your shot and your choice.
Hope this helps.

banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3864 Canada
24 May 2012 3:21PM
Helen, good feedback, and I have one question for you.

Are you resizing as follows:

Resize image: Image>Image size> set pixels per inch to 72; then set the longest side to what the site allows; then during the save as process, you will adjust the quality slider to get the right file size, then save.

Next: Open the new image. Check for sharpness at 100%. It will very likely need to be sharpened. You can use whatever method you prefer; here is a reliable method you can use:

Filter>sharpen>unsharp mask; set Radius = 0.8; set threshold = 3; now slide the Amount slider all the way to the right, which oversharpens the shot; then slide it slowly back to the left until it doesnt look soft, and doesnt look too sharp. You can view your image and turn Preview on and off to see how youre doing. When your happy, press OK, then SAVE. Now upload.

If no, thats why it looks soft.


24 May 2012 6:20PM
Thanks for all the feedback, Sooty the pole is the bird feeder good point made I may try removing it. Totally lost on flash I am affraid..... Bren I liked the mod you did has given me some ideas. Willie, my re sizing has a lot to be desired but thanks you for great advice I will do it this way in future.
Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
24 May 2012 10:24PM
Hi Helen,
Glad to be able to help.
I've just realised that you've only been with us five minutes, so 'Welcome aboard!'

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