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Flowers In A Field

By Minty805
I've been eying this old building in the middle of a field recently on our daily exercise walks and one evening the light was beautiful. But a confession; the sky was a bland, blue-grey and there didn't seem anything for it but to replace it, which I did in Luminar. I'll put the original sky up as a version, but would be interested to hear what anyone thinks of replacing skies in general. Is it a valid thing to do to improve an image, or a bit of a cheat, as that part of the scene isn't what I saw? I have mixed feelings, but have no doubt it enhanced the picture.
Thanks for looking. Allan

Tags: Sunset Landscape General Countryside Fields and Farmland

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3 Jun 2020 3:08PM
Lead for me.

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Fefe Plus
8 50 32 United Kingdom
3 Jun 2020 4:11PM
I cant help with swapping skies Allan, I do not know how to do anything like that.
But what you have done works well in this case, they can sometimes look obvious but this does not!
Diane
adagio Plus
1 3 2 England
3 Jun 2020 4:13PM
The sky replacement works well for me Allan, completely transforms the image.

Angela😄
3 Jun 2020 4:29PM
Like the lead
banehawi Plus
16 2.2k 4141 Canada
3 Jun 2020 4:33PM
The sky replacement improves the image. One point to be aware of when replacing a sky is to ensure the source of light is in the same position as the original sky to ensure the best result. In this, its not quite where the original light source is, the original seems more to the right, and aligns with the shadows exactly.

Another point is that the exposure of the original suggests a very bright sky, as the land portion is a bit underexposed; try to carry this over with the replacement, which would mean a slightly brighter replacement sky, and a little more shadow detail in the lower portion.

Regards


Willie
mac Plus
18 7 Scotland
3 Jun 2020 4:34PM
I swap skies quite a few times in pictures, if it improves the final mage. The Royal Photographic Society's philosophy on this is "that you can add other images to your photograph provided you took the added image in the first place" I.E. not downloaded the added image from a photo bank.
Back to your image - Well done, with the sky, as you cannot see the join. This the biggest problem with this technique is the join as you can often see the original colours shining through, especially when you have a tree in frame.
Ian
PhilT2 Plus
10 531 31 England
3 Jun 2020 5:12PM
The main thing here is that you have told us the sky has been replaced and not claimed it is how you saw it. Photography is an exact reproduction or an art form. As an art form the idea is to create a pleasing image in the way that oil and water colour artists create an impression of what they see. No problem at all.
The final image is very appealing and way better than the original.
A lovely, well captured scene Allan, regardless of any changes made.

Ray
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
3 Jun 2020 6:44PM

Quote:The sky replacement improves the image. One point to be aware of when replacing a sky is to ensure the source of light is in the same position as the original sky to ensure the best result. In this, its not quite where the original light source is, the original seems more to the right, and aligns with the shadows exactly.

Another point is that the exposure of the original suggests a very bright sky, as the land portion is a bit underexposed; try to carry this over with the replacement, which would mean a slightly brighter replacement sky, and a little more shadow detail in the lower portion.

Regards


Willie

Thanks very much for the helpful thoughts, Willie. The mod makes the point clear too. Good advice, which I take on board.
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
3 Jun 2020 6:46PM

Quote:I swap skies quite a few times in pictures, if it improves the final mage. The Royal Photographic Society's philosophy on this is "that you can add other images to your photograph provided you took the added image in the first place" I.E. not downloaded the added image from a photo bank.
Back to your image - Well done, with the sky, as you cannot see the join. This the biggest problem with this technique is the join as you can often see the original colours shining through, especially when you have a tree in frame.
Ian

Thanks, Ian. I appreciate your comment, and hearing what the RPS says on the matter is valuable advice.
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
3 Jun 2020 6:46PM

Quote:The main thing here is that you have told us the sky has been replaced and not claimed it is how you saw it. Photography is an exact reproduction or an art form. As an art form the idea is to create a pleasing image in the way that oil and water colour artists create an impression of what they see. No problem at all.
The final image is very appealing and way better than the original.

Thanks, Phil. Good to hear others see the technique as a reasonable thing to do.
3 Jun 2020 8:45PM
It's a lovely image Allan, I like the sky replacement and the slight underexposure which gives more depth to the scene imho.

LorySmile
bliba Plus
14 2 Austria
4 Jun 2020 12:02AM
just beautiful
saltireblue Plus
10 10.8k 62 Norway
4 Jun 2020 8:19AM
An alternative to replacing the sky, would be to make the image square, losing most of the bland sky. As I can only download and modify the lead, and not the version (original sky) then I can't accurately see if it works...
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
4 Jun 2020 10:22AM

Quote:An alternative to replacing the sky, would be to make the image square, losing most of the bland sky. As I can only download and modify the lead, and not the version (original sky) then I can't accurately see if it works...
Thanks for the suggestion, Malc. I tried it quickly to see what it looked like, but it seemed either to leave a part of bland sky or make the building look too cramped at the top. I suppose the ideal would just be patience and waiting for a better day...
TrevBatWCC Plus
12 13 16 England
4 Jun 2020 10:50AM
Have to go for the lead! I feel the same about replacing skies - I've done it many times to perk up an image for my satisfaction (especially if going to print out and hang on your wall for instance), but if presenting it to others as here on EPZ, would confess to having 'enhanced' the sky! And as Mac says, the replaced sky is your own image, not a stock image you've downloaded. 😃👍
Trev 😀
BobinAus Plus
5 2 10 Australia
4 Jun 2020 11:46AM
I like it very much Allan. First, the composition is uncluttered and interesting in a minimalist way: the flowers and grass dominant in the foreground: the small shapes of the solitary hut and lone tree a long way up the slope; the ridge line placed high up in the frame. The picture would catch my attention even with the original sky, somewhat bland as it is. The new sky certainly adds interest and the picture as a whole benefits from Willie's modification. For me personally, swapping one sky for another is a step too far but I have no-concerns with others doing so provided that it is made clear that such manipulation has occurred. Cheers, Bob
KingBee Plus
14 540 2 Scotland
4 Jun 2020 4:10PM
I swap skies all the time: there's nothing worse (in some cases) than a flat sky in an otherwise interesting image. Don't get me wrong: flat skies have their uses, but I can't think of many! I think this works extremely well. Out of UAs - if I remember, I'll give you one tomorrow.Wink

Best,
Bob
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
4 Jun 2020 9:37PM

Quote:Have to go for the lead! I feel the same about replacing skies - I've done it many times to perk up an image for my satisfaction (especially if going to print out and hang on your wall for instance), but if presenting it to others as here on EPZ, would confess to having 'enhanced' the sky! And as Mac says, the replaced sky is your own image, not a stock image you've downloaded. 😃👍
Trev 😀

Thanks Trev. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
4 Jun 2020 9:40PM

Quote:I like it very much Allan. First, the composition is uncluttered and interesting in a minimalist way: the flowers and grass dominant in the foreground: the small shapes of the solitary hut and lone tree a long way up the slope; the ridge line placed high up in the frame. The picture would catch my attention even with the original sky, somewhat bland as it is. The new sky certainly adds interest and the picture as a whole benefits from Willie's modification. For me personally, swapping one sky for another is a step too far but I have no-concerns with others doing so provided that it is made clear that such manipulation has occurred. Cheers, Bob
Thanks for your take, Bob. As I said, I have mixed feelings on the practice, so, as I replied to Malc, the best solution would have been to sit on my hands until the same lovely light coincided with a decent natural sky. But you know how it is with camera in hand...
Minty805 Plus
3 33 6 United Kingdom
4 Jun 2020 9:42PM

Quote:I swap skies all the time: there's nothing worse (in some cases) than a flat sky in an otherwise interesting image. Don't get me wrong: flat skies have their uses, but I can't think of many! I think this works extremely well. Out of UAs - if I remember, I'll give you one tomorrow.Wink

Best,
Bob

Thanks Bob. I did wonder about giving in and going b&w - something I'm usually only too pleased to do - but this really was about the colour. I asked for people's views on swapping skies, and it's been most interesting to see the reactions.
Hope you're well, Allan
BobinAus Plus
5 2 10 Australia
5 Jun 2020 11:52AM

Quote:
Quote:I like it very much Allan. First, the composition is uncluttered and interesting in a minimalist way: the flowers and grass dominant in the foreground: the small shapes of the solitary hut and lone tree a long way up the slope; the ridge line placed high up in the frame. The picture would catch my attention even with the original sky, somewhat bland as it is. The new sky certainly adds interest and the picture as a whole benefits from Willie's modification. For me personally, swapping one sky for another is a step too far but I have no-concerns with others doing so provided that it is made clear that such manipulation has occurred. Cheers, Bob
Thanks for your take, Bob. As I said, I have mixed feelings on the practice, so, as I replied to Malc, the best solution would have been to sit on my hands until the same lovely light coincided with a decent natural sky. But you know how it is with camera in hand...



I'm all too familiar with the sitting-on-hands business, Allan! Here inland Australia the morning and evening skies are often completely devoid of clouds. On one hand I find the lack of interesting texture and colour in the sky quite frustrating but on the other hand I wonder if landscape photography is too much in the shadow of the historical development of landscape painting, specifically the determination of artists to outdo each other in the rendering of the sky (Claude, Turner and all that). For photographers, who have to take what they find, the sky is only a part of any scene. Its place can be minimised or even done away with completely if the other content is sufficiently interesting and detailed. And in some scenes, I think a smallish area of empty sky will provide a measure of tranquility above a 'busy' landscape, particularly if the colour of the sky (blue, yellow, mauve etc depending on the hour) works well with the colour of the terrestrial elements - in something like the same way that negative space can add balance or harmony to a picture. Cheers, Bob
Chinga Plus
9 3 2 United Kingdom
5 Jun 2020 11:11PM
Excellent image... this is a beautiful scenery...
Isabel GrinGrin
This is a lovely image lots of colour tones which compliment each other but the outstanding sky brings
the image together beautifully.

Carole

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