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FRUSTRATION SUBSIDING

By Tish1    
You lot blew me away with your response to my previous upload 'The Cheeky Boy', thank you so, so much, especially given that portraiture can be very personal. Additional thanks go to Peter [ddolfelin], Mark[tc], Ron [Rontear], Rob [RLF], Brian [Brian17302], Karen [Kaz1], Dave [Daveswork], Irene [Ireneclarke], Richard [Dickspics], and certainly not least Ernie [DevilsAdvocate].

So, back to the frustrations of water droplets; I hope I have taken on board the advice given previously, thank you very much. These examples have addatives in the water, but I haven't yet got the viscosity right, hey, give me a break I'm a busy girl at the minute Grin

The consequences of incorrect viscosity include, not generating the desired height, because the liquid is too dense and also not achieving the appropriate collisions; however, I have changed a couple of things as follows:

Changed the position of the flash units so that the light was bouncing more off the back wall and also used tissue paper rather than gels to introduce colour, much prefer the tissue paper to the gels; also bounced flash from the ceiling, which did not have any tissue paper adornment, because I wasn't getting enough light on the water.

While, I have changed the position of the camera which may have improved things, I think it still needs to be raised in order to achieve the optimum reflections, not sure if, raising it slightly higher than I think it needs to go and then tilting it slightly forward would result in better reflections that include more of the reflection [or just buy a bigger bowl], something to be practiced next time.

I appreciate that I need to get rid of the band at the back which of course is the edge of the dish by increasing the amount of water and when I find an area in my house that is level, or devise a system to level the bowl [house built on a hill, nothing is absolutely level] I hope to resolve that issue.

As you can see from the EXIF I also used a different lens, which I think helped; I have included a link to the previous upload for critique for comparison.
https://www.ephotozine.com/user/tish1-227006/gallery/photo/absolute-frustration-49658912

The versions are included, only because they illustrate that initially the images lacked lustre and I was looking for a way to correct this, the processing in the versions is crap. I processed the image through Nik Collection and used the HDR filter, which made all the difference.

While, some of the water appears to be well focused other parts are not; this would suggest to me that there may be a problem with the flash since the shutter speed is fast enough to freeze action; and there does seem to be an issue with my flash units that I can't explain, you of course may have the answer........ After a short period of use, they decided to illustrate the gratitude by putting on an impromptu light display, even when the main flash was turned off. It wasn't the batteries because I changed them, to no avail, it was like Blackpool illuminations, infact better.

So, the question is, how much have I got right, in making the changes have I made somethings worse and, what do I need to do now in order to achieve perfection, not much of a question really Grin

Thank you

Tish

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Comments


ddolfelin Plus
10 103 3 Wales
27 Jan 2017 3:20PM
Sounds awfully complicated.
I love it so it disqualifies me from making any helpful remarks.
In fact it's award worthy but I don't have any left.
TrevBatWCC Plus
13 13 19 England
27 Jan 2017 3:41PM
I've never attempted anything like this, but it looks and sounds rather tricky to achieve, so can't fault or critique this at all Tish. An excellent piece of work! SmileSmile
paulbroad Plus
14 131 1294 United Kingdom
27 Jan 2017 4:12PM
This one is very effective and demands attention, which means it works. Was the full reflection there or does the container preclude that? If it were, a portrait format with full reflection would be quite something.

Paul
Tish1 Plus
9 32 5 United Kingdom
27 Jan 2017 4:15PM

Quote:This one is very effective and demands attention, which means it works. Was the full reflection there or does the container preclude that? If it were, a portrait format with full reflection would be quite something.

Paul



I think it is the position of the camera that illiminates all of the reflection, but may be a larger or at least longer container would prove useful


Tish
pamelajean Plus
16 1.7k 2253 United Kingdom
27 Jan 2017 6:52PM
You are trying different angles, but I think your previous image worked better because it included the reflection, and was taken from a more effective angle. I think the forward tilt worked better.
The tissue paper colouring works well, and I like the colour combination you chose.

I know this takes a lot of patience and admire you for all your efforts and perseverance.

I have done a modification where I straightened the image using the extremities of the bowl edge. It was only minor.
I cropped all sides, but particularly the bottom, so that there isn't so much of the reflection showing. This helped alleviate my desire to see the rest of the refection included. Then an automatic adjustment which changed the blacks and whites for a more contrasty image and a bit more sparkle.

Pamela.
banehawi Plus
18 2.7k 4308 Canada
27 Jan 2017 10:18PM
Much better.

I know that youve read THIS LINK before, and I read it before I commented. It may be worth reading again.

The key as far as I can see, is the set up of the flash, especially the power level, and the shutter speed used, which for her is 1/60th She has a pertinent comment about a technique for including the reflection.


Definitely progress.


W
dudler Plus
18 1.9k 1933 England
27 Jan 2017 11:49PM
Some softness might be the result of ambient light that is bright enough to register drops that are moving fast. Odd that it only happened with some drops...

I really like the complicated shapes you've got - I was disappointed not to be able to vote, and was thinking of an award.

The missing reflection is a minus point, as is the curved 'horizon' obviously it is actually curved, as it's the edge of a bowl!
Tish1 Plus
9 32 5 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2017 12:33PM
Thank you all for the comments; and of course the mod, your time is very much appreciated.


While enjoying a glass or several of wine last night, watching how a residue of wine lingers on the side of the glass as I pour it down my throat; I have come to the following conclusion, which I will ask Willie to explain because he has a more scientific mind than I, actually, he has a mind and I currently don't.

Given that there was very little ambient light and I know that the density of the liquid was too much, I think the soft focus in parts, is possibly due to the density of the liquid, such that it is heavy and therefore not responding as I would expect................ answers on a post card please


Tish
28 Jan 2017 2:29PM
No advise but I am impressed with your efforts. Reminds me of a sequence on pick t.v. They have a wine glass that smashes with all the droplets in slow motion. Very impressive Tish. Debs
Bantu 8 7 1 India
29 Jan 2017 6:36AM
Do not use flash,requires more shutter speed and light.

Vikram
29 Jan 2017 7:50PM
Lovely work Tish..Lin
31 Jan 2017 1:26AM
bravo Tish!!! great stuff!!! SmileSmileSmile
1 Feb 2017 9:14AM
You have put a great deal on knowledge and creativity into this, Tish, and have been rewarded with a beautiful image, I like this a lot.
Francis
jocas 7 6 United Kingdom
10 Feb 2017 11:46AM
Sounds difficult but looks brilliant Grin
Jo

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