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Ghirardelli Evening

By PatrickSmith  
This 4 image panorama taken just after sunset shows the Balclutha on the left and Ghirardelli square on the right. I shot the left hand image first and worked my to the right as it got darker, since the sun had just set to the right of the frame. So by the time I got the right right hand image, it had become as dark there as it was when I took the left side image. So the whole image has a consistant brightness, as it was seen with my eye.

I met people from 7 countries plus a few US states while I took these shots.

There should be a panoramic image gallery. In my full-sized version, I can see details in the windows of those apartments on the hills. Even the 1000 pixel version is just too small.

4 images taken in landscape orientation, 30 seconds each, @F8, no filters, 7373x2929 (2x5), 50% overlap

Tags: Exposure General Panorama Long Landscape and travel San Francisco Ghirardelli

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Nigel_95 Plus
15 262 2 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 1:54PM
Love the colours in the sky and reflections on the water. Good planning on the order in which you took these. This is a different, but great shot from you Patrick.

JouŠo 17 56 Finland
25 Sep 2006 2:01PM
...and I´m always all alone, when shooting : (

...except those annoying swallows : )

Well done, Patrick!
Different and I like it..........

25 Sep 2006 2:02PM
The large is excellent Patrick, the tones and colours are so good and the reflected light is magic, fine shot, Adrian
Briwooly 15 454 6 England
25 Sep 2006 2:03PM
Super work Patrick fantastic image
paulcr Plus
16 1.5k 9 Ireland
25 Sep 2006 2:03PM
Large version definitely recommended. Great work, love the variety of colour on the water. Paul
joss 14 8 England
25 Sep 2006 2:14PM
Absolutely superb shot!
RipleyExile 18 1.6k 17 England
25 Sep 2006 2:18PM
Large version id superb. Brings back some great memories. Handled the lighting (setting sun) very well.
albi 16 68 1 England
25 Sep 2006 2:19PM
Excellent low light work.
sut68 17 2.0k 77 England
25 Sep 2006 2:21PM
Great shot and a precise description. Glad to see how much planning went into the shot. Nicely worked Patrick.

25 Sep 2006 2:23PM
The larger version is a must, and I agree with the panaramic gallery. such a calm and glow capture on the water front. ps..nice work on your website also.

jeanie Plus
17 6.0k 6 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 2:24PM
Very well stitched Patrick. Super reflections and that ship is just wonderful.

beaniebabe 15 2.3k England
25 Sep 2006 2:28PM
Fantastic as usual Patrick

Angie x
clive burrow 17 71 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 2:42PM
Super work Patrick, large version is stunning.

MikeBonsall 15 474 3 Guernsey
25 Sep 2006 2:43PM
you really nailed the consistant brightness issue here Patrick. Did you really shoot in landscape rather than portrait configuration? How much did you overlap each image and what stitching software did you use? I know, questions questions!!

PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
25 Sep 2006 3:00PM
Thanks for looking!

LOL Jouko. Yes, there were no swallows, but there were large pelicans flying right through a couple of these shots. No sign of them here however!

Mike, I used portrait orientation because is was already zoomed out to 40 (my limit) and portrait mode would have just made narrower images where the top and bottom would have been cropped out anyway. I'm getting a 24-105. Then I can zoom in more and make portrait mode panoramas where this image might be 4,000x10,000. But I could make a very large print from this I believe. The detail when seen at 100% is great. I just used PS, but will get better software soon. I lined everything up perfectly and when I joined the images, even the sky blended so well, that I hardly had to work on it at all. When zoomed to 40, each image has very little curve and they joined perfectly. Not even one pixel looked out of place. I was totally surprized.

I overlapped each image by about 50%! Maybe that is why it came out so perfect. The mast of the ship was in the middle of the left hand one and the building above and to the left of the Ghiradelli sign was in the middle of the right hand image. When I had all 4 images in one file, I cropped it for a 2x5 ratio.

Am I doing this right? I have no idea, but the full sized version looks like I took one shot with a panoramic camera!

chris-p Plus
15 75 England
25 Sep 2006 3:15PM
Smashing piece of work you put together..
TonyA 16 11 Spain
25 Sep 2006 3:22PM
Fantastic work on this great image. Making a panorama image on the afterglow time is quite a feat.

joeb 16
25 Sep 2006 3:32PM
Superb shot, great detail.

VintageRed 15 15 1 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 3:34PM
Hi Patrick - a well stitched panorama. You're right, there are some times one longs for a little more detail. Nick
old timer 17 55 1 Scotland
25 Sep 2006 3:42PM
Just first class, Patrick!
Kim Walton 17 145 30 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 3:52PM
Great shot Patrick.
The hardest part of these is getting all of the uprights to marry up and they have here .Well done M8
jan 1 17 12 Netherlands
25 Sep 2006 4:01PM
Hello Patrick.
Really superb work you made of those shots. Perfect and Beautiful.
25 Sep 2006 4:30PM
Hi Patrick, Superb capture of light. I love the muted reflective strips in the work. Excellent. helen
skydivemike 16 47 Northern Ireland
25 Sep 2006 4:37PM
Cracking low light image Patrick.

mattw 17 5.2k 10 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 4:40PM
Superb image Patrick. Well stiched, and plenty for the eye to look at.

NorthernEdge 15 535 England
25 Sep 2006 4:48PM
Eyup patrick!

How are things? Good I hope.

This looks so much better in the large version, that's the trouble with the 5D and wide angle needa bigger print to do them justice!

Chris Wink
25 Sep 2006 5:09PM
Superb Patrick - the stitching worked out alright then eh??
You're right about the pano gallery - so much detail is lost when resizing.

martinw 15 251 England
25 Sep 2006 5:19PM
Absolutely superb Patrick.
jaktis Plus
17 84 Sweden
25 Sep 2006 5:24PM
Lovely light in this panorama

piccy 15 8 Wales
25 Sep 2006 5:34PM
Superb image. I bet this looks fantastic on the wall.
25 Sep 2006 5:37PM
a little different for you Patrick and a very well put together image. nice work
martinproe 15 293 5 England
25 Sep 2006 5:47PM
Beautifully put together panorama, amazing clarity and sharpness. Brilliant!
KathyW 17 1.8k 12 Norfolk Island
25 Sep 2006 6:00PM
Beautfiul scene, I just love that ship!
25 Sep 2006 6:14PM
Great stuff Patrick, it is so full of interest and has the finest of detail.
hayleyk 15 56 England
25 Sep 2006 6:17PM
Excellent panoramic,Patrick
Love all those colours reflected in the sea

gajewski 16 10 9 United States
25 Sep 2006 6:17PM
Patrick, this is an increadible stitching job. Yes, there should be a panorama gallery. -=Walter
JohnDyer Plus
15 80 2 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 6:55PM
very well put together, your work has paid off, nice one
MarkT 16 119 2 England
25 Sep 2006 6:58PM
Superb stitching and a beautiful view - superb shot.

CathyI 16 344 3 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 7:15PM
Absolutely fabulous Patrick! Something a little different, brilliantly planned and executed, great shot!
AlleyCatz 15 274 6 England
25 Sep 2006 7:28PM
Brilliant job done to a brilliant result.A must viewed large.I really like the reflections/colours.Excellent.

thorn 16 124 2 Scotland
25 Sep 2006 7:48PM
Hi Patrick,brilliant reflections,wildlife,lighting,exposure,detail,dof,stitching,skyline,colour/tones,sky,orientation and presentation.What a shot.Out of this world.Exceptional composition.Take care.AnnSmile
Yogendra 17 22 1 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 8:02PM
Beautiful panoramic shot, Superb.

Glostopcat 15 255 2 England
25 Sep 2006 8:05PM
A superb panoramic view, beautifully stitched together
xinia 16 54
25 Sep 2006 8:05PM
excellently done Patrick!!
Phil_Morgan 14 182 1 Wales
25 Sep 2006 8:24PM
Very well put together pano.

owp 16 168
25 Sep 2006 8:28PM
. . . Hi Patrick! . . a great stitch job! . . you would never know if you had not have told us! . . . a superb image in all aspects! . .

sooty 36 16 14 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 8:35PM
This is a cracking pic. Lovely work. Great detail and colour.
jules41 17 197 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 8:39PM
Excellent capture Patrick,almost like Christmas with all those lights twinkling in the background,Superb colours and reflections too.well captured
25 Sep 2006 8:40PM
fantastic image,well put together
Dotrob 15 Wales
25 Sep 2006 8:42PM
Great work, love the colours and the reflections.
DP_Imagery 16 24 6 Wales
25 Sep 2006 8:44PM
Excellent techique to get the balanced light quality - and a really lovely image as a result. Bruce
Maddie 16 2.7k 2 United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 9:05PM
i have just sat and looked at this for ages, the detail and lights, colours and reflections its just wonderful, well done Patrick.
MalcolmS Plus
15 1.2k 13 England
25 Sep 2006 9:14PM
This is just superb Patrick, so much to look at and the panoramic format suits it really well

PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
25 Sep 2006 9:27PM
Thanks for looking! I think I'll do more of these.

Thanks Kim. Even on the 6,000 pixel version, not one was out of place. I could not believe it!

You're right Chris (NorthernEdge). We need bigger files! Good to see you back.

Yes Scott, it worked out great. Since I was zoomed to 40, the images had very little distortion and I made sure the verticals were straight in the camera before I took the shots.

colin 16 697 5 Scotland
25 Sep 2006 9:51PM
Superb piece of craftsmanship, Patrick. I love to see your logic written down. I'm much more haphazzard when I take mine!-))
Brings back fond memories of my short time in SF.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4235 Canada
25 Sep 2006 10:30PM
Very well put together, - great image.

tepot 16 4.4k United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 11:51PM
great reflections Pat, looks like you have the exposure time spot on for all 4 shots, compressing so much information into 1 shot makes this the equivelent to an ultrawide lens, pushing the image far away and so you can't see small details, at least not at 1000 pixels, i wonder what this would look like printed out at full size?

how did you get everything to line up? do you have a spirit level on the tripod?

maybe panoramics for the site are best with coastal views where there isn't quite so much detail?

this is very colourful though and quite eye catching.
tepot 16 4.4k United Kingdom
25 Sep 2006 11:54PM
This will print at 8X20" at 300 dpi, would look good on the wall Wink
Carabosse 18 41.5k 270 England
26 Sep 2006 12:30AM
This really has to be viewed large, Patrick, to be appreciated. Lovely clear detail in a night shot. I agree with Terry: "one for the wall".
tonymarq 15 1 United States
26 Sep 2006 12:56AM
Patrick this is simply perfect and well balanced in light and detail! Pat as always stunning!!

stay well and thanks always!

tepot 16 4.4k United Kingdom
26 Sep 2006 2:28AM
how did you do the stitching Patrick?
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
26 Sep 2006 3:35AM
Thanks for looking!

Terry, I was just extremely careful about how I lined up each shot. I looked carefully at the barrel distortion as I zoomed and right at 40, it seemed perfectly flat. I hear that there is even a very slight pincushioning at 40 but that had no effect that I can see. I kept everything level and panned across the scene to make sure that the horizon was exectly level and that the buildings and ship's mast were not bending. I could have corrected any distortion in PS but I'm too lazy! But I spent a good half hour before dark taking test shots and getting ready.

I did nothing special with the stitching. I just threw them into the PS automated stitcher and they all lined up perfectly. I could not even tell where they had been joined, except for one small spot in the sky which was easy to blend away.

I think that the 50+% overlap did the trick. I looked at every single pixel at 200% and I can not tell that a single pixel is out of place. I know the city and I would see if something was wrong. I have not done any cloning at all.

I will be getting stitching software for more difficult situations.

I have blown up my 350 D images to 30 inches and they had very little pixelation. This is more than twice as wide and each pixel with the 5D is of higher quality. I'm sure that 60 inches at 100/inch might still look good. Especially on canvas. My 12x18's with the 350 look as sharp and 4x6's.

I will try printing this at 16x40 just to start.

terry_cavner 16 332 United Kingdom
26 Sep 2006 5:11AM
Tandberg 18 1.2k 2 England
26 Sep 2006 8:38AM
Nice evening shot Patrick!!
chase Plus
15 2.1k 562 England
26 Sep 2006 8:53AM
Superb detail & clarity Patrick,well stitched..lovely work..will look superb on the wall.
sunshot 16 24 United Kingdom
26 Sep 2006 10:16AM
excellent capture patrick, very well taken indeed.

mickf1 15 2 England
26 Sep 2006 10:59AM
One word, "Brilliant"
Consulo 16 840 10 Scotland
26 Sep 2006 10:59AM
Very good, Patrick.

To have had such long exposures, it's amazing that there isn't any discrepancy between each of the 4 frames.

Portknockie 16 48 Scotland
26 Sep 2006 4:44PM
Superb photo..and the description of how you took the shot is very well explained...

26 Sep 2006 6:10PM
Beautiful night scene!

phototime 15 8 United Kingdom
26 Sep 2006 6:53PM
Fantastic night scene,lovely colour and reflections a beautiful image.

PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
26 Sep 2006 7:06PM
Thanks for your comments.

Michael, I think that there is very little difference between frames because I waited for the light to be same in each frame. It got dark from left to right, so that is how I shot it. I waited about 1 minute in between exposures. So it took about 6 minutes to shoot all the frames. I think that I could have compared raw frames and made adjustments there before creating tiff files. That could even out the frames too.

Chriscj 15 96 1 England
26 Sep 2006 8:25PM
Excellent shot Patrick. taking the time to set up has certainly saved you some time at the PC.

VNelson 16 3 United States
26 Sep 2006 8:27PM
Where's the GG panorama? This worked out quite well for sure. Talk about groupies!

highlander 17 32 Scotland
26 Sep 2006 8:30PM
Hello Patrick, a beautiful twilight setting with lovely colours and your crisp sharp presentation adds to the quality of your work. Excellent.
PS. spate is a Scottish word associated with rivers in flood conditions.
anthhope 15 1 England
27 Sep 2006 11:18AM
Great lights
vismaya 15 Ireland
27 Sep 2006 2:16PM
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
27 Sep 2006 2:34PM
Thanks for looking in!

Yes Chris, extra time spent with the camera is less time sitting in from of a computer screen!

LOL - Verne!

Thanks Doug. I've heard the word 'spate' used in context like, 'We've had a spate of bad news lately...' So that makes sense.

54 luca 16 2 Wales
27 Sep 2006 4:26PM
Fabulous great blending of the 4 shots to make this superb panorama. Looks like a great place to be around.

GillyB 16 317 8 United Kingdom
27 Sep 2006 7:00PM
Not sure how I missed commenting on this Patrick, I remember studying and admiring it, and then probably got called away... I have already flooded the kitchen and set the coffee machine on fire this week and my husband blames epz for distracting me!

Anyway....excellent stitching work to produce this superb panorama!

Taya 15 19 United Kingdom
27 Sep 2006 7:29PM
tripodted 15 32 1 Northern Ireland
27 Sep 2006 8:14PM
Very well manipulated shot!
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
27 Sep 2006 8:55PM
Thanks for looking!

LOL Gill, did you flood the kitchen before or after you started the fire? That is a very important detail that you left out! Tell him that you only need two things in life; food and EPZ. And if all fails, just file a lawsuit against Pete for creating EPZ to begin with. After all, this is all his fault!

GillyB 16 317 8 United Kingdom
27 Sep 2006 9:42PM
Patrick, I flooded the kitchen first unfortunately. It was just over a week before we could open the drawers and cupboards because the wood had swelled.
Fortunately, I have a very understanding husband who is used to all these little things I do!
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
28 Sep 2006 12:08AM
Too bad Gill. If it were the other way around you could just say that you were putting out the fire. Then you would only be in trouble for one thing! Hopefully everything will be back to normal soon.

Ceciliat 16 6 Philippines
28 Sep 2006 12:09AM
Brilliant shot! great colours.
yjjeep 17 13
28 Sep 2006 1:26AM
Your work is outstanding with the camera and you help means alot to many.I know i learned by looking and reading everything you put on your photos.I feel that light and depth has to be in a landscape photo for it to work.You seam to get that every time.Keep up the good work and take care.
JimV 14 6 3 Canada
28 Sep 2006 2:00AM
You do have to view the large version to really appreciate this, just great. You may find it of interest that I worked for seventeen years in the shipyard where the Balclutha was built, needless to say, it was before my time. The yard was Charles Connell & Co. Ltd. Thanks for comment on my tomatoes, they should be safe.
KBan 16 512 4 United Kingdom
28 Sep 2006 5:14AM
another quality shot Patrick!
smourt 17 80
28 Sep 2006 12:47PM
damn good!!! Tried these and am hopeless at it.
what lens do you use and at what focal length? do you set your WB?

PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
28 Sep 2006 1:52PM
Thanks for your comments! I just got a panoramic head to make this easier.

John (yjjeep), thanks for noticing. I put so much effort into these things.

What a small world Jim! They have her looking great and in mint condition. What a great ship she is.

Stephan, these are the details:
4 images taken in landscape orientation, 30 seconds each, @F8, no filters, 2432x6079 (2x5), 50% overlap, I have the Canon 17-40L lens zoomed all the way out to 40, so each image is flat with little curvature. I shoot RAW so I don't wory about white balance. I can adjust it in C1 if I ever want.

tmann 16 4 2 United States
28 Sep 2006 2:05PM
My gosh, the lighting, detail, and capture are just perfect!
You photos are always such a pleasure to view!!
Take care, my friend!
Jasbe 15 116 England
28 Sep 2006 2:13PM
Excellent shot Patrick.
Pegon 15 78 1 England
28 Sep 2006 10:39PM
A fantastic image, excellent exposures and blending together.
billbris 16 3
28 Sep 2006 10:51PM
Absolutely superb Patrick and very well explained. Well deserving of a 'spate' of clicks.

PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
29 Sep 2006 3:21AM
Thanks for looking!

LOL Bill!

chrissd 15 304 United Kingdom
29 Sep 2006 4:38AM
jaw dropping !!
ColouredImages 16 47 35 United Kingdom
29 Sep 2006 4:54PM
Smashing composition Patrick but it's the almost pastel shades of reflected light on the water that give it the edge (in my opinion anyway, if that counts for anything?)

glazzaro 16 70 23 United States
29 Sep 2006 10:02PM
Well taken and put together, you sure do have the knack for getting it done up right! Nice work, you have a lot of talent. Spot on! Click!!!

REKLAW 16 3 United Kingdom
30 Sep 2006 10:12AM
amazing work Patrick,everything has been said,well done.
AnnaBanana 14 119 1 United Kingdom
30 Sep 2006 10:18AM
Stunning work -- nothing I can say that hasn't already been said! Smile

Ade_Osman 18 4.5k 36 England
30 Sep 2006 11:51AM
Like this shot needs another click?....LOL

Top drawer work as always Patrick!

Norma Plus
15 7 United Kingdom
30 Sep 2006 7:03PM
Lovely panorama Patrick. All been said

15 13 1 United Kingdom
30 Sep 2006 9:01PM
Like this alot, especially the stretch to panaramic mode, impressive image for sure!
MikeA 16 1.3k England
1 Oct 2006 8:39AM
Stunning image Patrick.

kinfatric 16 550 9 Scotland
1 Oct 2006 10:22AM
a fantastic pano' with good reflections, well worth the work behind the shot
bricurtis Plus
15 2.4k 51 England
1 Oct 2006 2:52PM
Four frames well put together here Patrick.
A very sharp clean image.Great colours in the water.Must look great as seen large from your end.

2 Oct 2006 9:16AM
Impressed by this work. Beautiful and well put together. Love it!

ghibby 15 101 United Kingdom
2 Oct 2006 9:01PM
Nice shot Patrick. A fine bit of stiching too to make all the detail cohesive.

What tripod head do you use for this kind of work. I've made do with a basic ball and socket for most of my panorams but looking forward to trying out a geard head I've recently indulged in!

scottf75 15 7 United Kingdom
4 Oct 2006 8:37PM
Mmmmm, Ghirardelli chocolate.

Love it, agree totally with the person who said it would look good on a wall.
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
4 Oct 2006 9:19PM
Thanks for looking!

Ben, since there was nothing up close in the foreground, I was able to use a regular tripod. But I now have a panning head that keeps the front of the lens in the same place and rotates the back of the camera instead.

Scott, I'm making a 20x50 so we will see how it looks!

Hawkgenes 16 10 United Kingdom
7 Oct 2006 7:24PM
A magnificent seascape

12 Oct 2006 2:29AM
Hey Patrick,
This is really nice....Lighting and Reflections are definitely the key to tranquility in this one.

Truthfully.....(And I know you're probably cringing now...LOL)...No, seriously........

I basically couldn't think about anything else except chocolate after reading the word "Ghirardelli"....Smile


PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
12 Oct 2006 2:42PM
Thanks Hawk.

Suzan...Me? Cringe? Never!

wyatturp 15 2 England
16 Oct 2006 2:32PM
Hi Pat hope you are well love this, the light on the water works well

18 Oct 2006 6:51AM
a complete city view and still no living soul to detect (and I used a loupe on the large version just to make sure ;o)
strange that Ghirardelli makes some think about chocolates... me it instantly reminded of an Italian professional cyclist with the same name.

Oh, yes... almost forgot... terrific photo
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
18 Oct 2006 4:12PM
Thanks Goug.

Thanks Koen! In the full sized version there are a few people who managed to sit still in the stadium-style seating below the sign. But for the most part the many people walking around disappeared during the long exposures.

28 Oct 2006 10:23PM
An awesome image ... i have been looking and looking at this for quite some time .. so much to see.... and a lesson in this too from the details on how you took these shots. Thanks for the info ... worth bearing in mind! I love the colours and the detail here ... the reflections are wonderful and I absolutely LOVE that ship on the left ... bet she looks stunning in full sail! Took a look at your website too Patrick .... I am most impressed ... about the best i have seen so far ... and I love how you are so willing to share your techniques with us all. Well done on that too! Click*
PatrickSmith 16 1.2k 2 United States
10 Nov 2006 6:31AM
Thanks Karen!

23 Dec 2008 10:19AM
pretty panorama Patrick, although the sky is a bit dull, it´d be good to see some clouds adding some sky interest to the excellent image...

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