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Girl in the Bush

By heyitshenry
Hello there,
Wondering what this slight bordering around the girls legs are like? does it work? is the colour right? Any other tips?

Cheers,
Henry F

Tags: Leaves Walking Trees Legs Ground Bush Wildlife and nature

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mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2054 United Kingdom
12 Jun 2019 10:34AM

Quote:Wondering what this slight bordering around the girls legs are like? does it work?

I'm not sure what you are asking about, is it the composition / placement or a technical issue?

Sorry if I'm being thick...
Moira

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12 Jun 2019 11:29AM
Like Moira, I don't understand what you mean by "slight bordering." But the colour looks OK to me.

Personally I think there's too much foreground... it isn't particularly interesting in itself, and draws the attention away from your subject. Also, those long green leaves on the right are an intrusion, and I'd suggest cloning them out... time-consuming and tricky, but doable.
I'll upload a mod with a revised crop... see what you think.

Alan
banehawi Plus
15 2.0k 4006 Canada
12 Jun 2019 12:55PM
Not certain either what you mean.

There is "bordering" on many edges in the image, - that is a slight blue line (but not on her legs, look atthat lest side plant leaf) and that blue edge is caused by chromatic abberation in the lens. This is where the light start to split into colours, - blue in this case. Its common with general purpose kit lenses, and can be corrected in post processing.
banehawi Plus
15 2.0k 4006 Canada
12 Jun 2019 2:50PM
Loaded a mod with the blue and magenta fringing reduced, and also cropped.
paulbroad Plus
11 127 1282 United Kingdom
12 Jun 2019 3:39PM
not sure wht you are trying to achieve here. This will seem harsh, but the composition looks like an error to me. For it to work the girls legs would need to be rather spectacular and well lit.

paul
dudler Plus
15 861 1488 England
12 Jun 2019 3:39PM
I wonder if the 'bordering' you refer to is the rim lighting of the legs - the light outline, caused by a strong light source behind the figure on the right, and a slight shadow on the left. If so, it's a matter of having more light behind the model than in front: quite prized in most pictures.

You ask about the colour and composition being 'right' - while htere are some conventional 'rules' for composition and colour (and everything else) they aren't absolute. The anser can, therefore, be 'it's not usually a great way to shoot someone, but it works here' or 'this follows all the conventions, but is not an exciting shot'.

This is fairly unconventional, because the horizon is more or less halfway up the frame, and hte girl's in the middle of the frame. Convention suggests offsetting both. But - for me - it works like this.

Shutter priority, again - there's a bit of photographic craft that you probably ought ot understand. The aperture you shoot at, the 'f number', dictates how much front-to-back sharpness you get. Wider apertures, that is, lower numbers, will give a fairly limited depth of field, as it's called. Stopping down to a small aperture (higher number, like f/11) gives a deeper zone.

Controlling depth of field is one of the basics of creative photography. Many photographers therefore set their cameras to Aperture priority, rather than Shutter.

The best way to understand this is to take similar pictures at different apertures. You don't need a human subject: just take a picture with subjects stretching from near to far, as you have here. Shoot at f/3.5, f/5.6, f/8, f/11 and f/16, and compare the pictures.

The zoom setting also affects depth of field - it is greatest at wideangle settings, less at telephoto focal lengths.

My suggestion is that you try a series of pictures, to find the effect of both settings, and hten take a picture to post here showing either deep depth of field (front-to-back sharpness) or shallow DoF (isolating hte subject by blurring everything in front and behind it.

That's your challenge for the week...
heyitshenry New Member
19
12 Jun 2019 7:19PM
Thank you all, The "Slight Bordering" was yes the foreground and some of the bush life around the legs. sorry for the confusion. and yes i will try the challenge this week. Thanks once Again
HenryGrin
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2054 United Kingdom
12 Jun 2019 9:15PM
Thanks for the explanation. I enjoyed looking at this one, it has a slightly sinister feel, we are stalking her, at ground level. The textures in the foreground give a very immediate, involving feel. Crawling through the undergrowth...

I wish the focus was just a little bit nearer to the camera. For this to work, you need to ask yourself - what does the viewer see first, what is closest to the eye? It's the foreground textures, but they are very soft and that's a distraction. Try holding your fingers up in front of your eye and then focusing beyond them, it's not easy, but that is what is happening here...

You've done some cloning along the top edge of the frame, and when I look closely the effect is quite weird, I'm not sure why you did this, what it was to hide.

I've uploaded a modification. I cropped top and bottom, to get rid of the dodgy work at the top and the softest of the textures at the bottom. Then I lightened shadows and darkened highlights slightly, and did some very gentle dodging (highlights) and burning (shadows), large brush, 3% exposure, over the foreground. That gives a crunchier feel to the dead leaves.

Then a bit of dark vignetting to add to the claustrophobic stalking feel.

BTW I love the foreground grasses, leaning in conspiratorially and joining in the pursuit.

Now I'm wondering about mono, I think that could be fun...
Moira
heyitshenry New Member
19
13 Jun 2019 8:39AM
Thank you Moira,
That is a really great insight and i will try to put some of these techniques into practice.
Do you use Photoshop for editing?

Cheers,
Henry FGrin
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2054 United Kingdom
13 Jun 2019 8:46AM
I use Photoshop for some work, but here I used Elements which I find more user-friendly, and then Nik Silver Efex for the mono conversion.

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