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Glen Etive - ice on the rocks

By Bigpoolman
This is a crop of a larger image which also captured more of the interesting rock formations in the foreground. Whilst I like the original, this crop allowed me to showcase the ice in the pools better and the rocks on the far side of the river.
Usual TS lens for sharpness.

Feedback very welcome, pros and cons.



Tags: Scotland Glencoe Winter Glenetive Landscape and travel 2017

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mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2423 United Kingdom
11 Feb 2017 1:10PM
First off, well done for looking for alternative views rather than sticking to the well-drilled tripod holes... This is a wonderful subject.

Do you see this as primarily about the colours in the rocks, or the shapes and crack-lines?

I have uploaded two very quick mods. For the first I simply lightened a bit overall, then used the burn tool, huge brush, 3% exposure, set to shadows, over the foreground a couple of times. This gives a more 3-D effect. I also slightly darkened that patch of bright water in the centre of the frame.

NB I have not touched colour saturation - improving contrast in light, which is what I effectively did, has that effect.

For the second I worked a high contrast b&w conversion with a bit of dark vignette. This version is about the shapes and lines.

I would want to go in even closer and look for abstracts. But then I'm not a landscaper...
11 Feb 2017 1:45PM
Thanks Moira, thoughtful as always.

I think to answer your question. i need to upload the uncropped version which was predominantly about the shapes and lines leading towards the lovely greeny / blue colours and the gorge beyond. I then decided to work on a crop for the reasons stated above which is more about the colours and also giving the background and ice pools more prominence.

I like both, interested in your views.

I took quite a few different pictures from an area of twenty square yards, including ice abstracts, could have spent the day there!

I'll go through your mods in more detail later when I get back

Thanks for your help

banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4247 Canada
11 Feb 2017 3:16PM
I think most of the interest is in the foreground,hence the crop.

The actual ice is not that easy to see, it needs a lift in exposure and some more contrast.


pamelajean Plus
15 1.6k 2224 United Kingdom
11 Feb 2017 5:14PM
Coming in late, I have the advantage of being able to see your original, before the crop, and have to say that this is the one I prefer and think you did the right thing.
There is enough that is of interest here without the rest, and you have successfully showcased the background rock formations as well as the foreground ones and ice pools. The shapes, colours and textures are well accentuated.

11 Feb 2017 8:47PM
Thank you all. Any further comments welcomed but to respond thus far:
- I did darken the foreground, lighten the far rocks to get some increased recession but the added contrast helps particularly darkening the river water a bit.
- I struggle with B&W and hope to improve on this during 2017. It's an interesting mod and certainly accentuates the lines and shapes. I will give it a go on another image from the same area as that was more about the shapes etc.
- not sure I like the closer crop as it stands. Its a good point and could be another picture entirely (mental note!) but think the composition would need quite a bit of change to make it work and I think I was in the wrong spot for that.
- thanks for your comment contrasting the two, thats helpful

Thanks again

dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1861 England
11 Feb 2017 9:50PM
Coming even later...

I think I endorse Moira's point about abstracts and crops: I think I may have been to this outcrop (is there a small waterfall behind the rocks?), and there's enormous scope for playing with colour and texture and shape, without doing the standard stuff...

And different lenses work for different shots: a 50mm or a short tele will be better, often, for the abstract shots. For closeup abstracts, there's even a case for a macro lens (and they usually work well for all other images, too, so they are actually more versatile than many people think.

It's very tempting to do something dramatic here, to boost contrast and saturation a lot. I think that the restraint of Moira's mod is preferable...
12 Feb 2017 8:55AM
Thanks John. Yes there is a waterfall on the left, the white water from the fall is that which you see in the centre of this frame. Looking down the fall was a cracking shot. Fantastic little area, I just ran out of time eventually but did get some other images.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1861 England
12 Feb 2017 11:56AM
I've been back through my pictures, and have uploaded a 'mod' to your later post - I wonder if it's the same part of the glen?

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